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Old Jan 2, 2010 | 03:41 PM
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I dont know what is going on. I have a 98 civic hatch, with a manual transmission. I installed the alarm and remote start but cant get the remote start portion to work. the alarm and doors work but no start function. I am not sure what else i have to do. is there something i have to do on the unit itself? Or do i have the wires wrong? For the heavy gauge wires it says.
H3-pink- ignition 1. I hooked it up to switched 12 volts
H3-red/white-fused ignition 2. I didnt use this
H3-orange-accessory outpout- I hooked this up to the power for the accessories.
H3-Violet-starter output- I hooked this up to the starter side of the black and white wire.
H3-Green-Starter input- I hooked this up to the key side of the black and white wire
H3 Red-Fused ignition 1- I hooked this up to battery constant.
H3 pink/white- ignition 2- i didnt use
H3 pink/black-ignition 2/flex relay- I didnt use
H3 red/black-fused for accessory/starter relay input.
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Old Jan 2, 2010 | 06:03 PM
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h3 pink goes to Black/Yellow on car
h3 red/white goes to Yellow on car, or white if there is no yellow.(this is why it dont work needs to be connected)
h3 orange goes to white/black

h3 Violet goes to black/white started side, (make sure its they start side by connecting to 12 should try and start.)
h3 green goes to black/white key side.
for the start you have to cut the black/white wire and connect violet to one side and green to the other if they are on backwards the auto start will not work.

h3 red goes to white 12 volt
h3 pink goes to yellow must be connected to work
h3 pink/black dont need
h3 red/black dont need.<MUST BE ON A 12 VOLT>

also did you do a relay for the clutch so it will bypass it to start the car?? you will need to do that its not hard but its hard to get to and you must know what your doing.
there is also a neutral safety switch input that needs to see a ground when starting.
The hood pin must NOT see ground when trying to start!!
Let me know if this helps all the car colors are for a 98 civic

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Old Jan 3, 2010 | 04:17 AM
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Default Re: Viper 5701 install problem

Originally Posted by PoorBoy_96civic
h3 pink goes to Black/Yellow on car
h3 red/white goes to Yellow on car, or white if there is no yellow.(this is why it dont work needs to be connected)
h3 orange goes to white/black

h3 Violet goes to black/white started side, (make sure its they start side by connecting to 12 should try and start.)
h3 green goes to black/white key side.
for the start you have to cut the black/white wire and connect violet to one side and green to the other if they are on backwards the auto start will not work.

h3 red goes to white 12 volt
h3 pink goes to yellow must be connected to work
h3 pink/black dont need
h3 red/black dont need.

also did you do a relay for the clutch so it will bypass it to start the car?? you will need to do that its not hard but its hard to get to and you must know what your doing.
there is also a neutral safety switch input that needs to see a ground when starting.
The hood pin must NOT see ground when trying to start!!
Let me know if this helps all the car colors are for a 98 civic
Ummm red/black needs to go to 12 volts....this wire provides voltage for the starter and accessory relays!!! With the new DEI systems its a safe bet to tie all the red wires into 12 volts....without that input the car wont R/S. Also the system has to see doors,hood and tach signals to be able to go into reservation mode.
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Old Jan 3, 2010 | 06:42 AM
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Default Re: Viper 5701 install problem

I will give this a shot. I just figured i didnt need it because it said ignition 2 on it and i am only using ignition 1 because im not running accessories .
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Old Jan 3, 2010 | 10:58 AM
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H3/1 pink, to cars black/yellow.
H3/2 red/white, to 12V constant.
H3/3 orange, to cars yellow.
H3/4 violet, starter side of cars cut black/white lead.
H3/5 green, key side of cars cut black/white lead.
H3/6 red, to 12V constant.
H3/7 pink/white, to cars white/black and program as 2nd acc.
H3/8 pink/black, not needed.
H3/9 red/black to 12V constant.

All the above must be connected and flex relay programed to 2nd acc. output.
The blue/white (-) 200mA 2nd status/rear defogger output of 5 pin connector or the blue (-) 200mA status output must be connected to the black/blue lead of the CIS, [clutch interlock switch., or connect the H3/4 violet, starter output, after the cars starter/starter cut relay, it will be a black/red lead at the relay. 94
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Old Jan 3, 2010 | 11:47 AM
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im sorry the red/black must be connected to a 12 volt like audioroach said. i must have read it wrong cuz you always have the 3 reds on 12 volt.
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Old Jan 4, 2010 | 02:01 PM
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What is a flex relay. I never really work with car audio/security systems. I also looked at the clutch pedal and neither of the wires are hooked up so i hooked the wire up black wire up to the hand brake wire.
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Old Jan 4, 2010 | 04:10 PM
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The flex relay is called that because it is flexible, it can be used as a 2nd ign., 2nd starter or 2nd acc. depending on the car it is going into, your car needs a 2nd acc.

" I also looked at the clutch pedal and neither of the wires are hooked up so i hooked the wire up black wire up to the hand brake wire"
I am not sure what you mean by that, but if you mean you connected one of the status leads to the hand brake, disconnect it.

Do you not have to press the clutch to start the car with the key??? 94
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Old Jan 4, 2010 | 05:23 PM
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I didnt hook up any of the 5 wire plug that has the flex relay output or status output. i have the H1,H3, remote start input and the door lock harness. on the remote start input i have the black/white neutral safety input on the ebrake, i didnt use the tach or the 2nd status(blue/white).
i can start the car without having the clutch pushed in. What other wires should i have wired in. Should i have a relay wired in? I have a 5-pin relay i can use i am just not sure. When i hit the remote start button it just goes and lights up the function button and the box clicks.
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Old Jan 4, 2010 | 07:37 PM
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have you connected the tach wire?? i have been installing the viper alarms for years and if you dont connect the tach which in your car is a blue wire in the engine bay next to the brake booster it wont remote start
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Old Jan 5, 2010 | 07:06 AM
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Default Re: Viper 5701 install problem

i did connect it and did the tach learn function and it is still not starting. i make sure i shut it down like the book says and it doesnt make a difference.
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Old Jan 5, 2010 | 07:43 AM
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Default Re: Viper 5701 install problem

Originally Posted by jorrego89
have you connected the tach wire?? i have been installing the viper alarms for years and if you dont connect the tach which in your car is a blue wire in the engine bay next to the brake booster it wont remote start
That is not true when you get a viper alarm or any dei auto start the factory program is in voltage sense and car be auto started with out use a tac wire only when you change the setting to tac will you need a tac wire And if you can autostart ur car by pressing the clutch and hitting start on ur key fob then you don't have the clutch bypass done right. You need a relay wired up to the cluth switch just google it I'm sure it will come up.
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Old Jan 5, 2010 | 08:30 AM
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yeah i didnt need a clutch relay. I figured it out. thanks for all the help
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Old Apr 21, 2010 | 09:36 AM
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Default Re: Viper 5701 install problem

there are two plugs on my clutch pedal. its a tight fit, i am not sure what wire i should be tapping into. its a 98 gsr sedan
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Old Jun 2, 2012 | 10:41 AM
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You figure it out? post it, isn't that what this is for?
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Old Jun 2, 2012 | 12:33 PM
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there are two plugs on my clutch pedal. its a tight fit, i am not sure what wire i should be tapping into. its a 98 gsr sedan
It's the top plug, not sure which wire.

With a DMM, test both pins - it's the pin that DOES NOT have continuity to ground.

W/O meter -

Just pull the plug, go into neutral w/ebrake, and give one pin ground and try to stat the vehicle. It's the pin that starts while grounded is where you'll place the clutch relay.
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