Subwoofer Positioning?
This can go ahead and be a "post your pics and chat" thread- I'm just wondering how everyone positions their sound set up and why?
What do you think would be the best way to improve SQ or bass response, or both?
I'm talking about which way you have your subs facing, I see a lot of people having them face towards the back, and I started thinking about it, wouldn't it be louder if it faced the front of the car? Let's hear it guys
What do you think would be the best way to improve SQ or bass response, or both?
I'm talking about which way you have your subs facing, I see a lot of people having them face towards the back, and I started thinking about it, wouldn't it be louder if it faced the front of the car? Let's hear it guys
Best sq in a trunk car would prolly be IB
loudest in a trunk car would be a 4th order bandpass
loudest in a trunk/hatch would be ported sub up/ port forward firing toward the hatch.
loudest in a trunk car would be a 4th order bandpass
loudest in a trunk/hatch would be ported sub up/ port forward firing toward the hatch.
I have my 2 12's facing the rear in the trunk of my civic. My cousin has a suv and has his facing towards the backseats and its alot lounder that way in a suv/hatchback. But in a sealed trunk I dont think it makes any difference.
Last edited by cityslicker1606; Apr 15, 2010 at 06:30 PM.
I think it sounds better and has more of a frequency range if it fires toward the trunk lid first; i built a box (exact to specs) that fired toward the back seat and it didn't sound as good as firing toward the trunk lid.
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Bass is not a directional frequency like high frequencies are. I have always found it better to fire the subs towards the rear of the vehicle so it travels farther and expands its bandwidth. Thats just my .02. Some may agree and some may not.
yeah that does make a lot of sense
for a while i built a square box and had one 12 facing towards the cabin and the other facing the rear. just to see if there was a huge difference.. it was just hard on my subs because of the pressure, until i ported it.
i would just stick with them facing the rear deck.
i would just stick with them facing the rear deck.
The best sound is going to be facing forward with no reflection.
In most cases rear firing is going to be louder in any type of car. The reason is the loudest part of a bass wave is the peak of the wave. The lower the frequency the longer the wave. The exception to this rule is if you have more air pressure come from your subs then your car can pass from the rear to the front you choke the subs. The pressure can actually be reflected back into the sub & stop full movement. Example of this is if you have ever been listening to bass in a car & the trunk was opened & all of a sudden it got louder inside the car. Removing a sub or turning your box around are your options in this case.
In most cases rear firing is going to be louder in any type of car. The reason is the loudest part of a bass wave is the peak of the wave. The lower the frequency the longer the wave. The exception to this rule is if you have more air pressure come from your subs then your car can pass from the rear to the front you choke the subs. The pressure can actually be reflected back into the sub & stop full movement. Example of this is if you have ever been listening to bass in a car & the trunk was opened & all of a sudden it got louder inside the car. Removing a sub or turning your box around are your options in this case.
My single 12" faces the rear. I've found that a rear-facing sub venting to the front that is angled 15 degrees upward sounds the best in my SUV. This is because the sound goes up and around and is not reflected back into itself. However, this is hard for me b/c the bottom of my box is flat and does not favor that placement.
As far as opening the trunk making the bass louder goes, even cracking a window will increase the loudness of the bass. I'm not entirely sure why but I believe it has something to do with the way the sound vibrates and opening the window will allow the whole car to vibrate and "vent" to the outdoors. Open the window too far and the sound dies, open it not far enough, same result. Of course, I'm not saying that you should drive around with your windows cracked all the time...that would be stupid during a rain storm. (durr) All I'm saying is that the placement of your sub(s) all depends on the geometrics of the inside of your car and exactly what kind of sound you're looking for.
What kind of system do you have, Sub(s), amp(s), etc.?
As far as opening the trunk making the bass louder goes, even cracking a window will increase the loudness of the bass. I'm not entirely sure why but I believe it has something to do with the way the sound vibrates and opening the window will allow the whole car to vibrate and "vent" to the outdoors. Open the window too far and the sound dies, open it not far enough, same result. Of course, I'm not saying that you should drive around with your windows cracked all the time...that would be stupid during a rain storm. (durr) All I'm saying is that the placement of your sub(s) all depends on the geometrics of the inside of your car and exactly what kind of sound you're looking for.
What kind of system do you have, Sub(s), amp(s), etc.?
The best sound is going to be facing forward with no reflection.
In most cases rear firing is going to be louder in any type of car. The reason is the loudest part of a bass wave is the peak of the wave. The lower the frequency the longer the wave. The exception to this rule is if you have more air pressure come from your subs then your car can pass from the rear to the front you choke the subs. The pressure can actually be reflected back into the sub & stop full movement. Example of this is if you have ever been listening to bass in a car & the trunk was opened & all of a sudden it got louder inside the car. Removing a sub or turning your box around are your options in this case.
In most cases rear firing is going to be louder in any type of car. The reason is the loudest part of a bass wave is the peak of the wave. The lower the frequency the longer the wave. The exception to this rule is if you have more air pressure come from your subs then your car can pass from the rear to the front you choke the subs. The pressure can actually be reflected back into the sub & stop full movement. Example of this is if you have ever been listening to bass in a car & the trunk was opened & all of a sudden it got louder inside the car. Removing a sub or turning your box around are your options in this case.
best sq hands down goes to IB(only if the sub can be used that way)
LOUDEST is gonna be a 4th order
seeing a 4th order is rare since it's very hard to get right, but in the right setup you can get some big #'s on the tl
that looks pretty sick. i wish i could implement my subs into my car, i hate having a box.. i'd rather have them IN the car like the speakers are, but i'm worried about taking the box apart
IB is just a larged sealed box if you do it right and seal off any air leaks from the trunk to the passenger cabin. But 9 times out of 10 they sound really sloppy.
I'm sorry but a folded horn sub enclosure is way louder then a bandpass enclosure. I built one with 2 MTX Thunder 5000 10's that did 146db legal SPL (outlaw without break the plane of the port 160db) on a B&K meter not an not the Audio Control that reads higher & this was back in the early 90's.
I'm also speaking from the aspect that you can listen to these boxs driving around & they sound good when you play music.
Most boxes built for SPL sound like poo when you play normal music through them.
I assumed the TS was focused more on normal sub enclosures as he asked a simple question.
But WTF do I know I just used to judge sound quality for IASCA & USAC. And have friends that held world records in SPL.
Did you read that in a mag?
IB is just a larged sealed box if you do it right and seal off any air leaks from the trunk to the passenger cabin. But 9 times out of 10 they sound really sloppy.
I'm sorry but a folded horn sub enclosure is way louder then a bandpass enclosure. I built one with 2 MTX Thunder 5000 10's that did 146db legal SPL (outlaw without break the plane of the port 160db) on a B&K meter not an not the Audio Control that reads higher & this was back in the early 90's.
I'm also speaking from the aspect that you can listen to these boxs driving around & they sound good when you play music.
Most boxes built for SPL sound like poo when you play normal music through them.
I assumed the TS was focused more on normal sub enclosures as he asked a simple question.
But WTF do I know I just used to judge sound quality for IASCA & USAC. And have friends that held world records in SPL.
IB is just a larged sealed box if you do it right and seal off any air leaks from the trunk to the passenger cabin. But 9 times out of 10 they sound really sloppy.
I'm sorry but a folded horn sub enclosure is way louder then a bandpass enclosure. I built one with 2 MTX Thunder 5000 10's that did 146db legal SPL (outlaw without break the plane of the port 160db) on a B&K meter not an not the Audio Control that reads higher & this was back in the early 90's.
I'm also speaking from the aspect that you can listen to these boxs driving around & they sound good when you play music.
Most boxes built for SPL sound like poo when you play normal music through them.
I assumed the TS was focused more on normal sub enclosures as he asked a simple question.
But WTF do I know I just used to judge sound quality for IASCA & USAC. And have friends that held world records in SPL.

normal or complex, it was useful information.. could be more of useful info thread than a simple answer one i s'pose!!
well, it depends on what car you have trunk or hatch, and varies on what ur looking for, every sub can be loud with the right box design, but ive always faced mines back for trunk and up with port back for hatch, look @ my sig :D and my other vids on youtube thru my sig..



