for ppl who afriad of their car being stolen, i can make a special device to prevent the car start without your premission. this is not a fuel cut only device but its a system that stop the whole motor. if interested, frankfai@hotmail.com (in LA area only)

 

good man... up!

 

I got the factory alarm. If those thieves can get thru it and drive off with my car, then good for them. Just hope they take good care of it. But if i catch 'em, then i hope they have a good funeral plan.

 

haha, funny.

 

how much? can you give a few more details? like does it turn on itself after you shut the motor off? or you have to flick a hidden switch to start or disable your motor? or is it controlled/turned on and off via remote? how difficult is install?

 

i charge from 150-200 depends on car year and model. it works like a second key of your car. every time u out of the car, u take that key out. when u in the car, u put the key in. so even they found that, there is nothing they can do. with all the tool stand by and my expertise, i still need 1-2 hours to install that. let say u lost the key and take the car to dealer and want to fix that, they will take many hours to fix that.

 

what part of LA are you in? i'm in torance.. how much do you think it would be for a 89 CRX Si? Have any pics of what it looks like installed? Is it sort of like the PowerLock(www.powerlock.com)? Thanks.


[Modified by Rexecutioner89Si, 9:26 AM 4/20/2002]


Modified by MilanoRex at 5:37 PM 6/7/2003

 

You should explain this device more. From the sounds of it, all a thief needs to do is find the 2nd keyswitch, unmount it/take it apart, and jumper it. Plus, I have enought trouble putting the key in the ignition at night (why Hondas never have little lights by the keyhole I will never know) let alone finding 2 key holes.

I still like the magnet switch you put behind the dash and just carry a magnet on your keychain to close the circuit when you start the car.

Plus if it takes 2 hours to install, you must be doing some serious re-wiring and that's never good.

 

your magnet is a pretty good idea. however, what if the magnet come loose while driving?(if u use that on the fuel pump power, it will stop the car in the middle, this for the ppl who have stiff suspension.). or if u put that on the starter signal, thief could easily run the + wire to the starter after they open the hood. on top of that, whats the different between finding the hole and finding the right spot for the magnet(and if the magnet is too strong, it might affect other thing, since lot of reley and stuff under dash.)

well, my switch does involf lot of wiring, but its not a big deal if u do it right. take my car for example, thats the my first kill switch, thats mean it was the worst one i made(never got problem, even i ran 2 years in raod race track; jump up and down though those speed bump). and the whole idea of this kill switch is that no thief will want to redo all the wiring to make the car run again, it costs too much time and its not worth the time for them doing it. even they find the switch, they will walk away if they see that many wire they have to figure out how to put it back.(if any single one is wrong the motor wont run ).

 

Here's my Idea!:

Take key chains from cars that have alarms for example.. the "alarm" key chain usually has 3 or so buttons. This is hard to explain, lack of sobriety. Disable the starter from the key switch and use the wiring for a convenient (out of eye sight) keystart that doesn't use a key but instead uses the signal from the "panic button" on the keychain.

This way, you can get in your car and hold down the panic button (design it to not sett off alarm!!!) and start/shut off your car with your keychain.

Ok, now, since the buttons on the keychain can get ruined or the battery inside the keychain can all of a sudden die, there is a solution. Use the old key start on steering wheel for a kill switch that shuts off all circiuts. That way you CANNOT start it with the key but you can turn it off with it. This will make it easier if the button on the keychain decides to stop working while your driving, making it easier for you to shut the motor off.

As for getting it started once the keychain dies, well there could be 2 ways to fix this.
1: Design a harness that makes it very easy to switch back and forth from "stock design" to "anti-theft/kill switch" design. This would make possible and quick to go back to the "old" way of car start/shut off. (this way makes it leff effective for anti-theft)
2: Make a back up keychain and hide it in your room or wherever.

There you have it. You will have a car that will start with the push of a button, and only the push of a button! You will also have an acceptable kill switch for SCCA, and you will have added anti-theft protection.

 

how much for a 95 integra? And exactly what does it involve? Can you post up pics?

 

3 people plus myself have this already in Toronto....
that is if it is the same device.
its a very simple system,
but the most effective security device, i rather
not talk about it though.....

SpoonEK9 if this is the same system i have,
honestly i'd keep it to yourself, the more people
that have this, the more it end up into the wrong hands,
you never know....."maybe" which is highly unlikely will
find out a way on detering this system....

put it this way, the only way your car is likely to be stolen
is if it is towed....




[Modified by Snatchback, 2:18 PM 5/22/2002]

 

well, i am not sure is that the same system like u have but even someone understand the thing i did, it still requires lot of time to do it.(at least 1-2 hours if u are very good at it and require many tools to do it right). on top of that, if u know how to mess with this stuff, u are a very good honda specialist.

but yes, my switch are made for protect my car and the only could steal it is to tow it or point a gun to me.


[Modified by spoon_ek9, 2:55 PM 5/22/2002]

 

'95 TEG? How much? Sounds pretty good. Have any references?

 

They already have this device with the "second key" in the market for years already. A lot of dealerships have it installed on the cars. The older version was known to be bypassed by a paperclip or just cutting the wires and twisting them together. The newer versions is fused, so that if it is jumped the fuse pops and the car wont start unless you replace the hidden fuse.

 

So what's your impression on it? or ?

 

no, those thing use just cut on the starter. mine cut almost everything to run a motor. and on top of that, those are too easy. if u know the trick, then thats no use.

 

sounds alot like loctronics

 

I know the trick, and honestly that device makes it easier to hotwire. >So Lets here more info on your "special kill switch". Everything done under the dash? Where is your second key located? You adding an LED to it.

Failsafe, Have you addressed this? What happens if I lose this second key? What happens if I need to valet park(can they copy or not the location to this?) Will I have problems if the key falls out while driving on the freeway or anytime while driving?

 

i am glad that u ask this.
1. the "key hole" is located in the grove compartment and there is no LED.
2. if u lost the key, u are fucked(i will give u 2 key only. i can make copy if u lost it, but i wont keep a record of your key, i will simply give u a paper that could let me know whats the combination of your key)
3. to be honest with u, i never think about or will use valet parking. if u valet park, then leave the key alone, no one will know about that.(anyway i dont trust the valet park guys)
4. yes, if u plug the key out while u driving, your motor will stop at once. however, i never have this problem even i run my car on road course and even spinout. the "key" is hard to fall out by itself. my car have a F12k/R6K spring rate.

hope it help

 

you mean poppin the clutch? poppin the clutch makes all starter kills useless. so that leaves you with fuel and ignition. wut exactly are you cutting off? without telling the customers, you won't have definite sells. Its like a sellsman trying to have someone sign a contract with a certain company but not telling them that they will be stuck with only certain phones that the company has authorized

 

ok, my thing cut off:
injectors
ignition signal
fuel pump
ecu power source
4 main sensors to run the motor

so, no fuel, no ignition, no brain = motor cannot run.

and i never said anything about the clutch

 

that sounds really good. all this with one key. how much will this cost on an obd1 teg?

 

Soon as I get my swap done up I'm planning to ahve installed in my DC.

 

How do you make your connections? Butt connectors? Solder?

Good idea to have it in the glove box because some of us have a locking glove box. But for those that dont have a locking glove box or dont lock it all the time, one of the first place a thief looks is in the glove box. Any measures done to protect the thief from tampering with "your special key"?