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Old Aug 27, 2007 | 06:19 PM
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ok i got a 1992 honda accord with 15w front speakers, i bought some 130watt pioneer speakers for the front and i put one of the 130w speakers on the left front side and it sounded worse that the 15w but i didnt feel like swithing them out again so i just left it, do i need to put both of the pioneers in the front for them to sound better, doest it even matter, why does the 15 year old 15w speaker sound better than brand new 130w pioneers, it doesnt make sense to me.
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Old Aug 27, 2007 | 06:49 PM
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I guess the first question I have is what are you running for source equipment?

Second, are you sure you have the new speaker phased correctly? http://www.installdr.com will help you determine that. If the new speaker is wired out of phase from the factory one, they most certainly will sound worse than before...
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Old Aug 27, 2007 | 07:04 PM
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just a pioneer headunit 50wx4 i just put the speaker in there and plugged it in.
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Old Aug 27, 2007 | 08:30 PM
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Default Re: NOOB speaker question (cityslicker1606)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cityslicker1606 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">do i need to put both of the pioneers in the front for them to sound better</TD></TR></TABLE>

You should always have speakers in matching pairs except for subs and center channel. Otherwise they sound awful.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">why does the 15 year old 15w speaker sound better than brand new 130w pioneers, it doesnt make sense to me.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Because matching the power requirements of an old worn out low wattage speaker will sound better than underpowering a brand new high wattage speaker.

Does that make sense? In other words, your deck is barely putting out any power compared to an amp. A speaker with high sensitivity needs less power and will sound okay powered by the deck. A speaker that requires more power will sound great when it gets what it needs, and sound awful and eventually blow if you under power it. Amp your new speakers.

Pioneer speakers aren't that great to begin with.
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Old Aug 28, 2007 | 10:38 AM
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ok thank you, you helped alot, i will buy an amp and i will get some new speakers
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Old Aug 30, 2007 | 06:15 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B18C_EJ8 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Second, are you sure you have the new speaker phased correctly? http://www.installdr.com will help you determine that. If the new speaker is wired out of phase from the factory one, they most certainly will sound worse than before...</TD></TR></TABLE>


what does "phased" mean--- am i not supposed to plug it in to the same thing the 15w were plugged into
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Old Sep 1, 2007 | 04:01 PM
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if you were to look at the waveform of your speaker on an oscilloscope you would see dips and peaks of the sine wave. if you're speakers are 180 degrees out of phase the waveforms will cancel each other out. The cone of one speaker will be on a downward motion towards the speaker basket while the other speaker will be on its outward motion. this is the basic definition but it gets a lot more complex when you get into the details. check out this site

http://www.libinst.com/tpfd.htm
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