216 whp All Motor Civic breaks record at Modacar…
 

216 whp All Motor Civic breaks record at Modacar…


Tonight we tuned by my All Motor 2L at Modacar in Livermore. We beat out their All Motor record by a few hp. Here is the setup:


Exospeed Built and sleeved GSR 2L
12:1 compression
Alaniz Pro-Port head
Toda Valve Train
Supertech flat valves
Webb Stage 3 Cams
ANR.com header
In an 88 hatch

Tuned by Patrick (methods from the ENDYN board) and Noah (allmotorgsrekk).


Here is a dyno of the first and last runs as well as a few pictures of the car.


http://www.deviantmethods.com/PostHo.../000__Noah.jpg

http://www.deviantmethods.com/PostHo.../001__Noah.jpg

http://www.deviantmethods.com/PostHo.../002__Noah.jpg

http://www.deviantmethods.com/PostHo.../003__Noah.jpg

http://www.deviantmethods.com/PostHo.../004__Noah.jpg

http://www.deviantmethods.com/PostHo.../005__Noah.jpg

Re: 216 whp All Motor Civic breaks record at Modacar… (allmotorgsrekk)
 

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Re: 216 whp All Motor Civic breaks record at Modacar… (allmotorgsrekk)
 

nice job! i'm hopin to make that maybe more when i'm done building mine! anyway nice numbers https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif especially the tq!

Re: 216 whp All Motor Civic breaks record at Modacar… (skribblez)
 

good numbers. does the an-r header have the street or merge collector? what size injectors?

Re: 216 whp All Motor Civic breaks record at Modacar… (red civic standard)
 

550cc RC injectors
255 fuel pump
Hondata

big injectors.. what tb is that? and size. and is that type r mani worked on at all? or just bolted up?

Re: (sheepey)
 

Nice numbers! I like the hatch and engine bay pic. Very sleeper like. "oh, its just a gsr" https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emwink.gif

Your setup is tight, power doesnt drop till 9K https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...s/emsmileo.gif What trans are you running? I bet w/ type-r gears and lsd that shit would be low 12's easy!

Are you gonna get a seperate tune w/ racegas? I bet you could get another 15 hp with some more timing and higher octane https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif

Re: (PyroProblem)
 

Don’t be fooled by the age old assumption that timing makes power.

We started at 26 degrees total timing on this motor and worked our way back to 17 degrees total timing. Yea, that’s right; this motor makes 10 more horsepower at 17 degrees WOT timing than it does at 26 degrees. (weird eh?) Thanks to Casey at Modacar for suggesting (several months back) that we try retarding the timing instead of advancing it when the engine doesn’t respond to changes.

I would like to take this opportunity to thank Modacar (especially Casey) for allowing us to use their equipment on a Saturday. Not only did they stay open for us, but they give us free reign over the dyno. All for a very reasonable price. They have Casey on-hand to answer any questions you may have and their facility is very clean and orderly.

I have personally dynoed at a dozen different establishments in the bay area and Modacar is easily my favorite. My second favorite would be Visnu.

http://www.modacar.com

http://www.theoldone.com


-Patrick

P.S. Everything we learned we learned from Larry at ENDYN. So even though this motor was not built by ENDYN it was designed through the principals laid out by Larry Widmer at ENDYN.

its a 68-66 tb and merge collector

Re: (allmotorgsrekk)
 

I see alot more power coming out of that engine with simply just different cams.

Rocket M24X

Re: (thevanitygroup)
 

https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif thats the type of numbers i like to see https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif

Re: (allmotorgsrekk)
 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by allmotorgsrekk &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Don’t be fooled by the age old assumption that timing makes power.

We started at 26 degrees total timing on this motor and worked our way back to 17 degrees total timing. Yea, that’s right; this motor makes 10 more horsepower at 17 degrees WOT timing than it does at 26 degrees. (weird eh?) Thanks to Casey at Modacar for suggesting (several months back) that we try retarding the timing instead of advancing it when the engine doesn’t respond to changes.

P.S. Everything we learned we learned from Larry at ENDYN. So even though this motor was not built by ENDYN it was designed through the principals laid out by Larry Widmer at ENDYN.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I am dying to know: are you using Endyn's rollerwaves? That would lend evidence to his quick-burn ignition strategies.

Very cool.

Re: (Silverpike)
 

nice!

Good numbers, thanks for the tunning tip!

Re: 216 whp All Motor Civic breaks record at Modacar… (allmotorgsrekk)
 

Great numbers. Nice car man https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif

looks like a tight fit with that header

Nothing in the motor is from ENDYN except the Oil Catch Can

Re: (allmotorgsrekk)
 

Great numbers!! Very nice build

Good luck at the track

Re: (El Phantom -EG)
 

good job, not many cars break 200 whp on that dyno all motor.

Re: 216 whp All Motor Civic breaks record at Modacar… (allmotorgsrekk)
 

I thought I beat that record on my stock K20A there! https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...s/emsmilep.gif

Re: (thevanitygroup)
 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by thevanitygroup &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I see alot more power coming out of that engine with simply just different cams.

Rocket M24X</TD></TR></TABLE>

why is that? just wondering why you choose one profile over the other with his setup?

you have specs on both cams???

Re: (JerseySiPOS)
 

didnt pacman have a record for most hp (all motor) on 91 oct. 243whp to the wheels i think? but never the less https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif nice set up

Re: 216 whp All Motor Civic breaks record at Modacar… (SuperTwinz)
 

I THINK ITS ONLY FOR B SERIES JON. GOOD NUMBERS NOAH CANT WAIT TO SEE HER RIP AT THE TRACK N STEETS https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif

Re: 216 whp All Motor Civic breaks record at Modacar… (SiKnezzALLmotor)
 

what b series motor is this? any setup?