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BearsEK-KMSU 01-27-2007 09:08 PM

190 whp LS graphs inside!!
 
Just got done dynoing my buddys car at King motorsports, He works there and does all of their tuning and fab work. He built it and here are the results.
Engine specs:
81.25 mm bore
jdm type r pistons
stock rods
arp bolts
ported head
.5 mm oversized valves
12.1:1 compression
b16 intake manifold 99 SI
64 mm tb
CROWER 62404 cams
CROWER springs and retainers
DC 4-2-1 2" collector
HONDATA S300
stock injectors
walbro 255
68 lbs rail pressure
2.5 inch exhaust no cat
BUILT LS vs STOCK 2000 B18b with intake and exhaust
http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/fi...jbi/TTR_LS.jpg
MY gf's ls-vtec vs built ls
Her ls-vtec has 12:1 compression with type r cams
http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/fi...R_LSvsvtec.jpg



MikeSarr_GSR 01-27-2007 09:16 PM

Re: 190 whp LS graphs inside!! (bearsEK)
 
non-vtec coming on like a storm lately https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif massive tq curve for
a 1.8 https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...s/emsmileo.gif thanks for posting this https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif

87sivtec 01-27-2007 09:40 PM

How streetable is it?

BearsEK-KMSU 01-27-2007 09:49 PM

Re: (87sivtec)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 87sivtec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">How streetable is it?</TD></TR></TABLE>
He drives it to work everyday for the last year and 20,000 miles.

mtber 01-27-2007 09:49 PM

Re: 190 whp LS graphs inside!! (bearsEK)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bearsEK &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
68 lbs rail pressure
</TD></TR></TABLE>

What is s300 reporting your duty cycle at ?
I would say its time for new injectors https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...s/emsmilep.gif

BearsEK-KMSU 01-27-2007 09:55 PM

Re: 190 whp LS graphs inside!! (mtber)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mtber &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

What is s300 reporting your duty cycle at ?
I would say its time for new injectors https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...s/emsmilep.gif </TD></TR></TABLE>
It says 83% the stock ones work fine, the pump can hold up to 70 lbs of rail pressure.

mtber 01-27-2007 10:05 PM

Re: 190 whp LS graphs inside!! (bearsEK)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bearsEK &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
It says 83% the stock ones work fine, the pump can hold up to 70 lbs of rail pressure.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I am sure they will work fine, but you are close to the point of an upgrade. https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...s/emsmilep.gif

Btw, nice numbers man

BearsEK-KMSU 01-27-2007 10:10 PM

Re: 190 whp LS graphs inside!! (mtber)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mtber &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I am sure they will work fine, but you are close to the point of an upgrade. https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...s/emsmilep.gif

Btw, nice numbers man</TD></TR></TABLE>
Thanks i will tell him,
Like i posted i was just helping on the dyno it wasn't my engine. https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif

1 2 NV 01-27-2007 10:12 PM

Re: 190 whp LS graphs inside!! (mtber)
 
is this LS head B16 ported? i hear thats a common thing to do, send an LS head to a CNC machine for B16 sized ports along with B16 sized valves.

BearsEK-KMSU 01-27-2007 10:24 PM

Re: 190 whp LS graphs inside!! (1 2 NV)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1 2 NV &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">is this LS head B16 ported? i hear thats a common thing to do, send an LS head to a CNC machine for B16 sized ports along with B16 sized valves.</TD></TR></TABLE>
.5mm oversized ls valves, intake ports were matched to intake manifold. No guide protrusion into ports.

GetawayInMoscow 01-27-2007 10:25 PM

Re: 190 whp LS graphs inside!! (1 2 NV)
 
how can you run a b16 manifold on an ls? same bolt pattern?

1 2 NV 01-27-2007 10:25 PM

Re: 190 whp LS graphs inside!! (bearsEK)
 
sorry i saw that, im just unfamiliar with LS valve sizes.

BearsEK-KMSU 01-27-2007 10:27 PM

Re: 190 whp LS graphs inside!! (GetawayInMoscow)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GetawayInMoscow &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how can you run a b16 manifold on an ls? same bolt pattern?</TD></TR></TABLE>Its a simple modfication, close to the same bolt pattern
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1 2 NV &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">sorry i saw that, im just unfamiliar with LS valve sizes.</TD></TR></TABLE>
the valves are 28.5mm ex and 31.5mm intake

b19coupe 01-27-2007 10:27 PM

Re: 190 whp LS graphs inside!! (bearsEK)
 
Loving the non-VTEC numbers https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif
I would love to hear more about the head!

1 2 NV 01-27-2007 10:30 PM

Re: 190 whp LS graphs inside!! (b19coupe)
 
those torque #s are awesome. long live the No VTEC. haha. https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif that motor outta scream.

EK Josh 01-27-2007 10:36 PM

Re: 190 whp LS graphs inside!! (mtber)
 
Sweet numbers https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif

I never knew you could fab a b16 IM onto an LS head. If that's the case, why didn't he go for an ITR IM?

BearsEK-KMSU 01-27-2007 10:38 PM

Re: 190 whp LS graphs inside!! (EK Josh)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EK Josh &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Sweet numbers https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif

I never knew you could fab a b16 IM onto an LS head. If that's the case, why didn't he go for an ITR IM?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Thats the next mod/ test

mr_hahn73 01-27-2007 10:42 PM

Re: 190 whp LS graphs inside!! (b19coupe)
 
Really nice numbers!

MikeSarr_GSR 01-27-2007 11:02 PM

Re: 190 whp LS graphs inside!! (mr_hahn73)
 
200+ here we come https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif

b19coupe 01-27-2007 11:08 PM

Re: 190 whp LS graphs inside!! (bearsEK)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bearsEK &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Thats the next mod/ test</TD></TR></TABLE>
Or you could run the Blox IM, the results should be comparable.

BearsEK-KMSU 01-27-2007 11:20 PM

Re: 190 whp LS graphs inside!! (b19coupe)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b19coupe &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Or you could run the Blox IM, the results should be comparable.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I think he has a type r manifold already for his head, he has a fitting welded to his head so the coolant doesn't go through the manifold and the manifold is cut off. and the type r manifold he has is already cut off.

SuperTomcat 01-28-2007 03:17 AM

Re: 190 whp LS graphs inside!! (bearsEK)
 
damn i didnt know a ls could put down so much hp man. i was thinking about doing a ls/vtec but i dont know? nice hp and im lovin the torque figure. what car is this in and also how does that thing pull?

alterdcreations 01-28-2007 04:00 AM

Re: 190 whp LS graphs inside!! (SuperTomcat)
 
great comparison https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif

Slimer 01-28-2007 04:15 AM

impressive

mgags7 01-28-2007 05:59 AM

damn that torque curve looks like my stock h22's, only better down low https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...s/emsmileo.gif

good stuff https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif

bears, what about his setup do you think is making that huge amount of torque in the midrange vs your gf's?? is it the cams?


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