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Old Jan 17, 2012 | 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by doood
omniman made 200whp with cams and bolt on's years ago. he even showed people how to do it. old news.
This is true, great build video, i have it also. It takes a lot more than a set of cams to add 50hp to the wheels than the OP states, lol

Skunk2 stage 2 cams don't really make big power with stock compression, you need 11+:1 compression for them to really come alive
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Old Jan 17, 2012 | 03:39 PM
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Default Re: 100% stock b16 with bolt ons 192whp 115tq

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omniman made 200whp with cams and bolt on's years ago. he even showed people how to do it. old news.
Omni also had a Portflow head and bigger compression.

OP - nobody is trying to argue with you. It's not a matter of believing anything, it's a matter of fact. You cannot make 190+ on our dynojets by throwing cams in a b16a. You can't. Now if you somehow have a bad *** head and PCT's without knowing it, well then thats not your fault. But to create an act. on Honda Tech just so you can appear to brag about this "accomplishment," you're not gonna get the "props" you might have thought you would.
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Old Jan 17, 2012 | 03:47 PM
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Default Re: 100% stock b16 with bolt ons 192whp 115tq

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Omni also had a Portflow head and bigger compression.
really? hmm it's been a few years since i've seen the vid. oh well.
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Old Jan 17, 2012 | 04:21 PM
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Cams springs and retainers header and exhaust and yes you can get 20+ horses on stock engine if you know what you are doing
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Old Jan 17, 2012 | 04:22 PM
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Default Re: 100% stock b16 with bolt ons 192whp 115tq

Have tuned a lot of all motor cars and ive seen great results from junkyard engines that comes from japan
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Old Jan 17, 2012 | 04:23 PM
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Look for my other builds here on HT including my brothers integra 11.9 a couple of years back
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Old Jan 17, 2012 | 05:52 PM
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Default Re: 100% stock b16 with bolt ons 192whp 115tq

thought u said you didnt remove the head?
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Old Jan 17, 2012 | 05:54 PM
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Default Re: 100% stock b16 with bolt ons 192whp 115tq

I had the exact same setup. With itr intake manifold, spoon 70mm t-body and hit 176whp and 113 tq.

Plus you said you never removed the head, but then you state you did. I kind of doubt it. If not, good for you
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Old Jan 17, 2012 | 05:59 PM
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Default Re: 100% stock b16 with bolt ons 192whp 115tq

OPs got pretty high numbers but I don't understand the argument. Everyone knows that all dynos read differently. Until you get a trap speed it's just a number to hang on your refrigerator.
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Old Jan 17, 2012 | 06:57 PM
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Default Re: 100% stock b16 with bolt ons 192whp 115tq

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I had the exact same setup. With itr intake manifold, spoon 70mm t-body and hit 176whp and 113 tq.

Plus you said you never removed the head, but then you state you did. I kind of doubt it. If not, good for you
exactly when did i say i removed the head???
we installed
-new vlave seals
-s2springs retainers
-s2s2 cams
without removing the head
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Old Jan 17, 2012 | 07:02 PM
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Default Re: 100% stock b16 with bolt ons 192whp 115tq

and did the same thing to my b20/vtec (changed valve seals spring ret. and cams

the b20/vtec did 220whp 154tq right before the b16 dyno run
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Old Jan 17, 2012 | 07:22 PM
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Default dyno sheet!

here is the dyno sheet sorry for the cell pics. ill upload it with a scanner as soon as i get one,!
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Old Jan 17, 2012 | 07:43 PM
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Old Jan 17, 2012 | 07:50 PM
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right before. was our other engine b20vtec dyno run both were 3r gear pull
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Old Jan 17, 2012 | 08:34 PM
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3r gear pull ?
5th will give you more whp.
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Old Jan 17, 2012 | 08:39 PM
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Default Re: 100% stock b16 with bolt ons 192whp 115tq

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3r gear pull ?
5th will give you more whp.
sorry, i dont get it . 5th??
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Old Jan 18, 2012 | 04:02 AM
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Originally Posted by todahead
3r gear pull ?
5th will give you more whp.
shut up.

Op, your numbers are stout, most dont understand how important tuning actually is. What were your gear settings on the gears for the s2s2's. I've followed alot of neo's work, its very impressive.
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Old Jan 18, 2012 | 04:26 AM
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Default Re: 100% stock b16 with bolt ons 192whp 115tq

ALLMOTOR, you had me **** myself laughing at that reply. That one was definately Sig worthy.
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Old Jan 18, 2012 | 04:30 AM
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Default Re: 100% stock b16 with bolt ons 192whp 115tq

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ALLMOTOR, you had me **** myself laughing at that reply. That one was definately Sig worthy.
I try not to be mean. I also try to post the bare minimal now..But sometimes i get lose on my replies when i see **** said like that.
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Old Jan 18, 2012 | 05:30 AM
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Default Re: 100% stock b16 with bolt ons 192whp 115tq

Originally Posted by ALL M0T0R
What were your gear settings on the gears for the s2s2's.
I would like to know as well
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Old Jan 18, 2012 | 05:36 AM
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Default Re: 100% stock b16 with bolt ons 192whp 115tq

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Op, your numbers are stout, most dont understand how important tuning actually is. What were your gear settings on the gears for the s2s2's. I've followed alot of neo's work, its very impressive.
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and thanks people do underestimate good tunning...
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Old Jan 18, 2012 | 05:40 AM
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Default Re: 100% stock b16 with bolt ons 192whp 115tq

Originally Posted by maikito
I- 1+A
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and thanks people do underestimate good tunning...
I dont think people are underestimating good tuning , I just beleive most people spent twice the money and didnt get your results . I think you guys did great for the Mods you guys used great numbers bro
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Old Jan 18, 2012 | 07:10 AM
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Default Re: 100% stock b16 with bolt ons 192whp 115tq

Originally Posted by maikito
sorry, i dont get it . 5th??
dynos done in 1:1 ratio gear
the closer to that is 4th
so in 3rd gear you see in the graph some hp difference than 4th and 5th.
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Old Jan 18, 2012 | 07:19 AM
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good numbers man, My B16 made alittle bit more power than this but here is my mod list

JDM B16a
Stock Bottom end
5 Angle Valve Job and Slight P&P
RMF Custom Header
ITR Intake Manifold port matched to 68mm TB
3" Short Ram Intake
ARP Headstuds
Cometic .020" headgasket
Custom Regrind Camshafts



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Old Jan 18, 2012 | 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by todahead
dynos done in 1:1 ratio gear
the closer to that is 4th
so in 3rd gear you see in the graph some hp difference than 4th and 5th.
But why does it matter ? I'm sure it drives good, but you have to remember that its just a piece of paper with ink on it at the end of the day. Who really cares that much about dyno numbers ? I care more about the drivability and what i beat...
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