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GQ 05YellowEVO8 02-07-2003 12:02 PM

Review: Tommy Gunns Earthing Kit installed
 
I installed this set of wires this afternoon in the freezing cold weather.

Instructions was simple to understand but I grounded the wires differently

I connected a ground to the alternator, one to the back of the cylinder head, one wire to the tranny and one wire to the Skunk 2 manifold near the air temp sensor.

The original directions called for one connection to the VTEC solenoid and one connection to the Intake manifold where the flange meets the head but I chose two different spots. I read an artice of scc and they connected one of the ground wires to the tranny.

I havent had the chance to drive the car yet so dont ask me how it feels.

overall the wires and terminal ends look very high quality, and I was very skeptical towards getting a set but decided to take a gamble anyway.


mstewar 02-07-2003 12:05 PM

Re: Review: Tommy Gunns Earthing Kit installed (13 Sec GSR)
 
mine's on.. i'm just waiting on the digital version of my dyno plots so I can share the results.. muhahaha..

and mine is installed nearly identically to what tommy intended..

i think you'll like it..

GQ 05YellowEVO8 02-07-2003 12:08 PM

Re: Review: Tommy Gunns Earthing Kit installed (mstewar)
 

mine's on.. i'm just waiting on the digital version of my dyno plots so I can share the results.. muhahaha..

and mine is installed nearly identically to what tommy intended..

i think you'll like it..
Yeah? You think I'll like it? Im still kinda skeptical, but have you driven your car with the wires? How does it feel?

How'd you do on the dyno with the wires?

Chris N 02-07-2003 12:15 PM

Re: Review: Tommy Gunns Earthing Kit installed (13 Sec GSR)
 

I read an artice of scc and they connected one of the ground wires to the tranny.
If I remember correctly, adding a ground wire other than the one already attached to the tranny caused huge problems. Leave the tranny ground as is, and put the ground wires where tommy gunns told you to put them. SCC doesn't know, they really don't.

GQ 05YellowEVO8 02-07-2003 12:19 PM

Re: Review: Tommy Gunns Earthing Kit installed (Chris N)
 

I read an artice of scc and they connected one of the ground wires to the tranny.


If I remember correctly, adding a ground wire other than the one already attached to the tranny caused huge problems. Leave the tranny ground as is, and put the ground wires where tommy gunns told you to put them. SCC doesn't know, they really don't.

okay.... back to the garage in the freezing cold weather https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...s/emhammer.gif

Chris N 02-07-2003 12:22 PM

Re: Review: Tommy Gunns Earthing Kit installed (13 Sec GSR)
 

I read an artice of scc and they connected one of the ground wires to the tranny.

If I remember correctly, adding a ground wire other than the one already attached to the tranny caused huge problems. Leave the tranny ground as is, and put the ground wires where tommy gunns told you to put them. SCC doesn't know, they really don't.

okay.... back to the garage in the freezing cold weather https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...s/emhammer.gif
I'll check if I can find the thread for more evidence other than just my word. But, i remember reading/posting back in october/november when tommy gunns was making these kits that the tranny ground was left out for a reason. https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...es/emsmile.gif

GQ 05YellowEVO8 02-07-2003 12:24 PM

Re: Review: Tommy Gunns Earthing Kit installed (Chris N)
 

I read an artice of scc and they connected one of the ground wires to the tranny.

If I remember correctly, adding a ground wire other than the one already attached to the tranny caused huge problems. Leave the tranny ground as is, and put the ground wires where tommy gunns told you to put them. SCC doesn't know, they really don't.

okay.... back to the garage in the freezing cold weather https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...s/emhammer.gif

I'll check if I can find the thread for more evidence other than just my word. But, i remember reading/posting back in october/november when tommy gunns was making these kits that the tranny ground was left out for a reason. https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...es/emsmile.gif
okay thanks.

io_burn 02-07-2003 12:45 PM

Re: Review: Tommy Gunns Earthing Kit installed (13 Sec GSR)
 
I am SO skeptical that a few wires can add horsepower... So I'm dying to see some plots https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...es/emsmile.gif

mstewar 02-07-2003 12:45 PM

Re: Review: Tommy Gunns Earthing Kit installed (13 Sec GSR)
 

Yeah? You think I'll like it? Im still kinda skeptical, but have you driven your car with the wires? How does it feel?

How'd you do on the dyno with the wires?
yep.. i'm happy with it.. i'll have my own full review up at some point.. either when I get my scanner to work, or they email me the images.. this has been a PITA, but not for anything relating to the car/mod itself..

Chris N 02-07-2003 12:50 PM

Re: Review: Tommy Gunns Earthing Kit installed (mstewar)
 
I thought it was more to give the car a more 'smooth' feel... less vibration, etc.

B2FiNiTY 02-07-2003 01:06 PM

Re: Review: Tommy Gunns Earthing Kit installed (Chris N)
 
Yeah, I am 99% doubtfull of real power from the kit but I am expecting semi better headlights and a smoother running engine. https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...es/emsmile.gif

[HrZn]4life 02-07-2003 01:21 PM

Re: Review: Tommy Gunns Earthing Kit installed (B2FiNiTY)
 
Throttle response was noticebly better in my car. They have a list of things it is suppose to improve and it did improve everything; only thing left is to check hp and torque increases, which i don't expect anything but will check on the dyno.

Buckshot 02-07-2003 02:03 PM

Re: Review: Tommy Gunns Earthing Kit installed ([HrZn]4life)
 
it may not "add" hp but say your car is older and the grounds are bad it will at least bring you back to stock.

also like others said make your engine run smoother.

how much does tommy gunns sell his kit for?

GQ 05YellowEVO8 02-07-2003 02:04 PM

Re: Review: Tommy Gunns Earthing Kit installed ([HrZn]4life)
 
just got back from changing the ground point. One of my ground points was on the tranny, I decided to follow the instruction and put it on the VTEC solenoid.

I also rubbed down my motor with a damp rag to clean off the tar, dirt, etc....
can wait for warmer weather so I can clean my motor with a toothbrush......


CWESTINAP1 02-07-2003 02:50 PM

Re: Review: Tommy Gunns Earthing Kit installed (13 Sec GSR)
 
i had the sun earth systems ground wire on my tranny. i've had these ground wires on my car for awhile and so far no problem. so is it bad to have a ground wire on the tranny? if so why? im pretty sure the sun earth systems instructions said to connect one to the tranny.

Tommy_Gunns 02-07-2003 03:15 PM

Re: Review: Tommy Gunns Earthing Kit installed (13 Sec GSR)
 
I'm glad you liked it. https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif

Back in November when I made the first batch, I removed mine to copy the length of wires. For a couple weeks I was driving the car with the stock ground setup. I noticed that my car required 2-3 cranks before it started on several occassions. Put my earthing system back on, car starts on 1st crank consistently https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif

ragejed 02-07-2003 03:37 PM

Re: Review: Tommy Gunns Earthing Kit installed (Tommy_Gunns)
 
Why not just take off stock grounds and put these on? IE remove stock tranny ground.

R rated 02-07-2003 04:38 PM

Re: Review: Tommy Gunns Earthing Kit installed (io_burn)
 
I dunno about power.But Iafter seeing Tommy G put these wires on his car and getting positive results,I put it on my car too.Noticed better throttle response...but dyno wise.

Then took them off for a month, noticed a lack of throttle response, so I put wires back on.

Just my $02.Thanks Tommy for introducing me to concept of GW's.

itr-j 02-07-2003 04:58 PM

Re: Review: Tommy Gunns Earthing Kit installed (R rated)
 
i thought like itr's start on one crank
mine does hehe
huh
i'm confused....

DarthLuder 02-07-2003 05:05 PM

Re: Review: Tommy Gunns Earthing Kit installed (13 Sec GSR)
 
I have dyno plots.

D 02-07-2003 05:19 PM

Re: Review: Tommy Gunns Earthing Kit installed (13 Sec GSR)
 

I also rubbed down my motor with a damp rag to clean off the tar, dirt, etc....
can wait for warmer weather so I can clean my motor with a toothbrush......

A toothbrush? holy jesus... people are idiots these days.

MattD@Stoptech 02-07-2003 05:37 PM

Re: Review: Tommy Gunns Earthing Kit installed (D)
 
Hey, if j00 can play chicken with a building then he can clean his engine with a t00thbrush...

I find both pretty damn funny https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...s/emsmilep.gif

D 02-07-2003 05:51 PM

Re: Review: Tommy Gunns Earthing Kit installed (El Pollo Diablo v3.5)
 
Hype R with remote start - 0
Garage of house - 1

itr-j 02-07-2003 06:25 PM

Re: Review: Tommy Gunns Earthing Kit installed (D)
 

Hype R with remote start - 0
Garage of house - 1
same hehe

MattD@Stoptech 02-07-2003 06:28 PM

Re: Review: Tommy Gunns Earthing Kit installed (D)
 

Hype R with remote start - 0
Garage of house - 1
Sloped snowy driveway = 1
Z = 0


apexii 02-07-2003 07:01 PM

Re: Review: Tommy Gunns Earthing Kit installed (El Pollo Diablo v3.5)
 
http://images.honda-tech.com/set1//smile/emsmileo.gif

migs 02-07-2003 07:17 PM

Re: Review: Tommy Gunns Earthing Kit installed (apexii)
 
Does anybody have a dynograph of this? Honestly, I dont care if Spoon sells it or not, I dont think it works. My opinion is only based cause I dont have proof. https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...es/emsmile.gif

Hooch'n 02-07-2003 08:49 PM

Re: Review: Tommy Gunns Earthing Kit installed (Migs)
 
u will start your car better......yes
but whp!!! I will have to see it to believe it..... https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...es/emdgust.gif

GQ 05YellowEVO8 02-08-2003 10:10 AM

Re: Review: Tommy Gunns Earthing Kit installed (D)
 

A toothbrush? holy jesus... people are idiots these days.
Yeah but this idiot has a motor thats so clean that you could eat off it. https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emwink.gif

I'm gonna let that comment slide, but I am very anal about keeping my engine bay clean....

Buckshot 02-08-2003 10:15 AM

Re: Review: Tommy Gunns Earthing Kit installed (13 Sec GSR)
 
how much is the tommy gunns kit?

mstewar 02-08-2003 10:25 AM

Re: Review: Tommy Gunns Earthing Kit installed (Migs)
 
yeah, i'm trying to fix my scanner right now so you can at least see the B/W ones.. color will have to wait I guess..

buckshot, it was like $30 or so, when he sold the first batch..

acura_typer 02-08-2003 10:36 AM

Re: Review: Tommy Gunns Earthing Kit installed (Migs)
 
I'm sure its mostly placebo affect. As for the car starting on the first crank, mine always does anyway, so whip-te-do.

D 02-08-2003 10:49 AM

Re: Review: Tommy Gunns Earthing Kit installed (13 Sec GSR)
 

I'm gonna let that comment slide, but I am very anal about keeping my engine bay clean....
clean is fine.. a waste of time, but whatever. if you had said wire brush, or something to that effect, i wouldn't have commented... however, a toothbrush isn't going to do shit to get you a better electrical connection. that's all. have fun with the toothbrush.

Buckshot 02-08-2003 12:49 PM

Re: Review: Tommy Gunns Earthing Kit installed (D)
 
hell if its only 30 bucks why not by one...if it doesnt do anything oh well..and if it does then thats great https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif

PatrickGSR94 02-08-2003 12:56 PM

Re: Review: Tommy Gunns Earthing Kit installed (Chris N)
 

If I remember correctly, adding a ground wire other than the one already attached to the tranny caused huge problems. Leave the tranny ground as is, and put the ground wires where tommy gunns told you to put them. SCC doesn't know, they really don't.
I don't see why this would happen, a ground is a ground is a ground is a ground as far as I know, and current will always take the least path of resistance. What difference does adding another path make?

kim_2_da_chee 02-08-2003 01:01 PM

Re: Review: Tommy Gunns Earthing Kit installed (Chris N)
 

I thought it was more to give the car a more 'smooth' feel... less vibration, etc.
yes this is very true.. i actually made my own "kit".... bought some 8 gauge wire for like 3 bucks... and terminals..

what i noticed was that my car felt A LOT smoother... especially noticeable for such an old car that i have...

-less vibration in the car (i used to have HEAVY vibration and shaking)
-quicker start (even in the cold ass weather we have these days)
-also better idling and throttle response

i wouldnt be surprised if it really does give any hp gains, but im happy with my best $6 investment to the car https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...es/emsmile.gif https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif

N0E5cape 02-08-2003 03:20 PM

Re: Review: Tommy Gunns Earthing Kit installed (Tommy_Gunns)
 
can u educate me on how this whole thing works?

AzG35 02-09-2003 12:23 PM

Re: Review: Tommy Gunns Earthing Kit installed (PatrickGSR94)
 
I believe the reasoning between this is that different parts of the motor are grounded at different places on the chassis. These places on the chassis may be closer or farther from the battery than others. By placing grounds from certain points of the motor, you can shorten the distance the ground my travel from the battery to these points. The key is using high quality wire with very little resistance, and a good contact point.

sil 02-09-2003 04:01 PM

Re: Review: Tommy Gunns Earthing Kit installed (Tommy_Gunns)
 
is there gonna be a second batch and maybe in black??..:0 https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif

Tommy_Gunns 02-09-2003 06:13 PM

Re: Review: Tommy Gunns Earthing Kit installed (Buckshot)
 

how much is the tommy gunns kit?
This is how much I was selling the earthing kits for:

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=383537


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