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Old Oct 16, 2005 | 06:15 PM
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what is more reliable: a stock ls or a stock b16 head on a stock ls done right?

an using the stock ls redline. im thinkin the lsvtec might not be because u r re-routing the oil suply.

im thinkin bout doin ls vtec but the ls block has done me wrong a couple times
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Old Oct 16, 2005 | 06:21 PM
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Not to hurt your feelings bro, but if you you that search button there is a huge amount of LS VTEC threads.
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Old Oct 16, 2005 | 06:29 PM
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golden eagle ls-vtec kit, and stock redline, you wont have any problems, if you want to rev higher just buy a gsr
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Old Oct 16, 2005 | 06:31 PM
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Old Oct 16, 2005 | 06:40 PM
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the reliablity of any motor depends on how well it is put together, broken in, driven and maintained...end of story
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Old Oct 16, 2005 | 07:37 PM
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the reliablity of any motor depends on how well it is put together, broken in, driven and maintained...end of story

true but what if they were both fully rebiult.


and ive searched but there r so many about ls vtec it would take forever to look for reliability lsvtec vs ls , and i kinda jus wana make up my mind so i kno what i savin for and have a plan and etc.
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Old Oct 16, 2005 | 07:59 PM
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I think ls more reliable than ls/vtec if both are modded with the same mods. And stock LS is more reliable because the ls came that way and it will work better that way.

I want to see how many people driven an ls/vtec car for more than 100k miles.
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Old Oct 16, 2005 | 08:07 PM
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well, thats what everyone does,
I dont wanna search so i just kinda made another thread.

That's why there are 400+


If ls/Vtec was that awsome and that realiable,

Dont you think Honda would have already done this?

Think about it...
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Old Oct 16, 2005 | 08:12 PM
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LS is not enoug letters for search so all u found was a bunch of random **** about VTEC
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Old Oct 16, 2005 | 08:21 PM
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If ls/Vtec was that awsome and that realiable,

Dont you think Honda would have already done this?

Think about it...
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This is very true. The b16 was first produced in what? 1989 and the LS was produced in 1990, right. Honda Had over 15 years and never ever made a production LS/VTEC. I'm pretty sure they tried making an ls/vtec, but it wasn't going to be a production motor. Think about it. They made the b17 soon after then the gsr/sirg then the type r.
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Old Oct 16, 2005 | 08:51 PM
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ls vtec
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Old Oct 16, 2005 | 09:06 PM
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No rebuilt motor will EVER compare to the reliability of a stock assembled honda motor, Factory spec motor is the most reliable IMHO
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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 07:42 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dab16integra &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">true but what if they were both fully rebiult.


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heres what im saying, if you dont know how to build a motor, and throw together a stock ls motor, completely rebuilt, it will not be as reliable as an lsvtec, also completley rebuilt, but by someone who knows what they are doing.

so if you put together quality parts in a quality build, no matter what engine, it will treat you right as long as you break it in properly, maintain it properly, and drive responsibly.

an lsvtec is not an inherently bad motor...just think about it, as soon as you realize how a motor works, youll realize that a vtec head on a nonvtec block isnt that big of a deal...its just a different head...

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an using the stock ls redline. im thinkin the lsvtec might not be because u r re-routing the oil suply.

im thinkin bout doin ls vtec but the ls block has done me wrong a couple times</TD></TR></TABLE>
rerouting the oil supply will not affect the motor if you use a quality kit..if you diy, its only as good as you make it..

and im sure you did the ls block wrong before it crapped out on you..


Modified by nickG at 1:11 PM 10/17/2005
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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 08:22 AM
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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 08:52 AM
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i think it all depends on how it is put together...you can make the ls v-tec just as reliable as long as everything is done right. IF everything is done right the money can add right up and most people dont know how or dont wanna do it right. ITs worth it for teh power if your gonna do it right. Im doin ls v-tec in a da right now and have researched alot if u have any questions
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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 10:04 AM
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well whats more reliable an engine that honda engineers came up with or a hybrid that pople just made up you think about it if LS vtec was as reliable as LS honda woulda made LS with VTEC!
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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 10:10 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by low430 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">No rebuilt motor will EVER compare to the reliability of a stock assembled honda motor, Factory spec motor is the most reliable IMHO </TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 10:13 AM
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yea i think a ls vtec could be more reliable then ls cuz als it really is , is a ported head with a solenoid that engages a diferent profile cam lobe at a certain rpm.

the only thing i was thinkin is will it be less reliable because u have to re rout the oil suply.

whoever said : if ls vtec was so good then why didnt honda make it. that made me laff.

ur tryin to say honda would produce every single head and block combonation factory if it was a good reliable setup?
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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 11:03 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dab16integra &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yea i think a ls vtec could be more reliable then ls cuz als it really is , is a ported head with a solenoid that engages a diferent profile cam lobe at a certain rpm.

the only thing i was thinkin is will it be less reliable because u have to re rout the oil suply.

whoever said : if ls vtec was so good then why didnt honda make it. that made me laff.

ur tryin to say honda would produce every single head and block combonation factory if it was a good reliable setup? </TD></TR></TABLE>


All depends on the quality of your build.

Crappy parts and poor work on the engine = unreliable.

The better the quality the parts of your build, the better it will be.

Don't do some halfassed job that never ends good.
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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 12:40 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by FULLY_BUILT_NA &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well whats more reliable an engine that honda engineers came up with or a hybrid that pople just made up you think about it if LS vtec was as reliable as LS honda woulda made LS with VTEC!</TD></TR></TABLE>

that definantly made me laugh too...no they wouldnt have..thats why they made the gsr and it depends on if u do it right or not if the ls v-tec is jus as reliable its jus not that easy to make it jus as reliable. And its hard to judge beecuase if people ran there ls's as hard as there ls v-tecs they might blow more often.
THe gsr an type r are set up to handle the v-tec and such and my opinion gsr is as reliable as ls and you can set up the ls to hadle v-tec jus like the gsr which would make it just as reliable im guessing
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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 12:48 PM
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This is very true. The b16 was first produced in what? 1989 and the LS was produced in 1990, right. Honda Had over 15 years and never ever made a production LS/VTEC. I'm pretty sure they tried making an ls/vtec, but it wasn't going to be a production motor. Think about it. They made the b17 soon after then the gsr/sirg then the type r.</TD></TR></TABLE>

that is why they created the gsr motor, honda never created one because for one they couldnt call it a ls/vtec...and for two honda already had a engine out there that was better then a ls/vtec b18cr.....

and to the post the reason why there are so many thread about ls/VtaK'S to look throuhg is because people like you dont pay attention to the rules and just make anotherone...you need to learn how to use the search function better....theres a selection you can make that searches the thread not just the title.
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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 01:55 PM
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that is why they created the gsr motor, honda never created one because for one they couldnt call it a ls/vtec...and for two honda already had a engine out there that was better then a ls/vtec b18cr.....

and to the post the reason why there are so many thread about ls/VtaK'S to look throuhg is because people like you dont pay attention to the rules and just make anotherone...you need to learn how to use the search function better....theres a selection you can make that searches the thread not just the title.</TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 02:23 PM
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well when you are taking a ls bottem end up 1500 rpms, you will have more to worry about. More heat, more likely to throw a rod or spin a bearing. There is that much more centrifical force trying to break things apart.
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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 05:02 PM
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why is it a big deal that i posted? i dont like to search every post about ls vtec , id rather do it and find out
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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 05:07 PM
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LS motor isn't a performance motor so thats y honda came up wit the vtec's...for their performance line-up. y put 2gether two different motor, honda would rather have u buy one or the other. they dont want u to have both worlds!!!....they think people r stupid too put 2gether an ls/Vtec. they want u to buy an integ wit LS n an integ wit gs-r!! now u dont have tooo!!!!ahahahahhaaaa LS/VTEC!!
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