ok heres the story, 2 weeks ago i was driving down the street, contruction comes up lane goes all in one, some idiot in front of me went ahead and cut off a van and at the same time slammed on his brake not to hit the car ahead of him, so the van slams his brakes and be slowing down reminding my self i dont have ABS i turn away go in the bike lane not to hit anyone, meanwhile going into the bike lane my cars wheels lock i go strate into the curb at about 40mph and bounce off. The damages i had done were my control arms and axle, so it got repaired im happy, BUT NOW the mechanic told me my frame is possibly damaged, let me get you guys oppinion does this look like a frame damage to you or some other thing ?

 

Ouch, could be frame damage...it would be hard to tell from a pic though...your mech. should be able to tell you for sure...not just guess

 

Yes that looks like frame damage.

 

maybe the subframe, which can be replaced, but i wouldnt see hw the actual frame would be touched by a collison in the wheel area. Looks like a control arm or ball joint issue. Defiantley suspension related though.

 

Same thing happened to me but i hit a curb at 7mph. It sucks and that area tends to be weak. I destroyed my lca and an axel. g'luck

 

looks like frame damage to me..they should be able to pull it out though

 

subframe could be possible ?? anyone know a good body shop

 

I don't see how anyone can just say "Oh, it's frame damage",
When all we can see is the wheel, that could easily be from a suspension piece.

Having the wheel off, taking pictures of the area, and possibly in the engine bay,
and it would be a lot easier to be able to diagnose the problem on here.

 

i will do that tommorow to show u guys.

 

here are tons of pictures from every angle i could think of

also when i had lifted the car on the wheel jack, the shocks were really close on touching the frame behind it not sure if its normal or not.

 

Well the first signs of frame damage would be cracking paint/undercoating. Also check for any minor kinks. That would be the only way to tell with out actually measuring. It looks like you might need a strut as well.

 

can strut be the only problem, cuz that was what i was looking for, paint cracks and i couldnt find it, btw if frame gets bend wouldnt everything move outta place since its all 1 piece ?

 

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Im not saying the strut is the only problem just a possibility. I see a lot of scenarios like yours where people only need suspension work. Not always can you tell there is frame damage by looking at gaps. You best bet is to get it measured and go from there.

 

yea ill probably take it to a shop to get it checked out right after i replace my clutch, but is it possible where it could be something as little as a strut bar ? or ????

 

Its deffinetly possible that only your strut is bent.

 

thanks I will defenitley check that out tommorow and keep you guys updated !

 

A frame shop should be able to check it easily. If you want to examine it yourself, use the dimensions in the Helm manual.

 

the mechanic told me that the crossmember could be bad too, is it possible

 

im putting my money on a bent strut

 

You should also check out your lower control arm, subframe along with the radius arm and the crossmember. A shock may be bent but that won't cause the wheel to move back.

 

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Integras do not have struts, which is why the following is correct.

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Integras do not have struts, which is why the following is correct.

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they dont or do ?

 

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Your Integra has a double wishbone front suspension and a multi-link rear with shocks and springs. You can remove the shocks on an Integra and the wheels would still be fully attached to the chassis, although at the upper limit of their travel range. Vehicles with struts do not have upper control arms and the strut attaches directly to the knuckle and holds the wheels to the car, as in the RSX.

For example, here is the parts diagram for the 2001 ITR. It has shocks, not struts.

http://www.acuraparts247.com/p...ch=no
The knuckle bolts anly to control arms. Upper control arm and knuckle:

http://www.acuraparts247.com/p...ch=no
The shock only bolts to the lower control arm and the body.

http://www.acuraparts247.com/p...ch=no

Here is the same for the RSX. It has stuts not shocks, although the parts diagram mistakenly lables them as struts. Notice that the steerin tie rod connects directly to the strut as well.

http://www.acuraparts247.com/p...ch=no
The knuckle bolts directly to the strut and there is only a lower control arm.

http://www.acuraparts247.com/p...ch=no


Back to the point: bending a shock on your integra is not going to displace the wheel forwards or backwards because the control arms position it.