i know there is nothing impossible if u really try, but i am just wondering if it would be enough clearance to take the engine out leaving the transmission in place.

from removing all mounting and halfshaft it looks realistic but separating tranny from the engine makes me wonder. anybody had experience with this?

 

Yes, the engine and transmission are normally removed together as one unit. Trust me, it's alot easier, as there is a spot on the tranny case to attach the hoist chain, and it's also a PITA dropping the transmission with the engine still in the car.

 

wont happen. tranny needs out. even if you could pull this off, why?????????? it would be 100x harder. i pulled my motor/tranny by myself in about 2 hours and thats because i couldnt get the driver axel out. do you have a cherry picker?

 

oh oops I thought he asked about removing the engine leaving the transmission in place on the engine, not in place in the car.

haha no, that would pretty much be impossible. The transmission has to come away from the engine in order to get the input shaft out of the flywheel/pressure plate. You would basically have to drop the transmission first and then remove the engine, which would probably be 100x harder than just removing them both together.

 

that sounds reasonable, i just never dealt with removing the engine. i just need some work done to it so i was just wondering if it would be possible to take out just the motor. this way i wouldn't have to deal with removing the axles

 

nope sorry, not possible.

 

no matter what you'll have to remove the axles...so just pull the whole thing out...

 

anythings possible..but it would be better to take both motor and tranny out so that yo can inpect everything before you put it in...makes more sense...if you dont want to damage your axles then i suggest the first thing to do is remove them...and inspect them...whenever doing a job like yours its best to overlook everything...

 

i think i found an answer to my question by coming across few pics in picture thread...

 

i bet they had a hell of a time getting that all lined up when the motor went back in. obviously it's possible, but it would be much easier to pull the engine/tranny together. removing the axles and shift linkage isn't hard.

 

i changed the clutch on my gsr without removing the engine, it wasn't bad at all. i was doing the work by myself so taking the engine out wasn't an option. removing the engine is a lot more work than just removing the tranny.

i agree, it must've been a major pita putting the engine back in. imagine trying to line up that heavy *** engine with the tranny.

 

Bullshit.

I removed the motor from my teg, while leaving the tranny in.
It's possible, isn't too hard but is more of a hassle than just dropping everything.

 

if i had a cherry picker i would definitely take out the whole thing but in my situation it would be best to leave the tranny in and work with the block only.

i changed the clutch myself too without taking the motor out so it wasn't really a big deal lining up the tranny with the motor, i used long bolts as guides; in this case its opposite. i just wanted to know if it was ever done, and i can see that it was so ill give it a try. it will b a tight fit but id rather go this way.

 

I disagree, removing the engine and tranny together is a lot less work than just removing either or and a lot easier when it's time to reinstall. To take out the tranny, it's basically just the axles, wiring, and the mount, all of which should take about 35-40 minutes to get ready.

I've done 4-5 swaps so that helps a bit but I can pull a motor/tranny in about 3.5-4 hours without even going fast.

As far as not having a cherry picker, look on Craigslist or wait for a sale and you'll get one cheap. Once you're done, just re-sell it for what you paid for it.

 

I know you can remove the tranny by itself, but the OP was asking about removing the engine by itself.

I have dropped a couple of tranny's myself and it is a huge PITA. Although now that I have a cherry picker, I could probably attach it to the tranny and just lower it down to the ground while leaving the engine in, instead of having to bench press that bastard. I almost cracked a rib last time I did that.

Whatever dude, no need for that attitude

So it's possible, but I bet you I could remove my entire engine/tranny faster than just trying to remove the engine by itself. You would probably have to remove more stuff to get it out of the way just to get the engine out by itself (if you have stock engine bay w/ most/all stock parts in place).

 

and you guys using chains...wtf...use a seat belt you can manuver it more than a chain..and believe me its strong enough..if its strong enough to save lives and tow cars then it can lift an engine...btw i used seat belts to tow cars...i made a tow rope out of them..took the hooks off my bought tow rope that snapped and bolted them to the holes in the seat belt clips and tied two together for distance...better than buying i vouch for that...

 

actually with all the work you did all you would have to do is remove the passenger axle and the one motor mount that is holding it then VIOLA...we just saying it makes more sense to take it all out...

 

I don't see how you would get the engine to move far enough to the left to get the input shaft to clear the flywheel and pressure plate, and then be able to lift it up past the engine mount bracket on the frame rail. There's already only about 1" clearance between the crank pulley and the frame rail.

 

dropping the tranny is like 75% of the work.. just 1 more mount and the swap comes out.

 

The main reason I wouldn't pull the whole engine out to change the clutch is that draining and replacing/flushing/refilling coolant is a PITA and really takes a long time to do it the RIGHT way. Plus you have to remove the A/C compressor and P/S pump and support/tie those out of the way to remove the engine, that you wouldn't have to do if just dropping the tranny.

 

What do you consider the right way? I just drain it from the rad into a clean bucket, run it through a 10 micron filter, and then put in back in the radiator when the time comes. I'm genuinely curious as to what you consider the right way.

As far as the A/C compressor and P/S pump, that's only about 15-20 mins of work. Taking just the tranny out can be done, but I think just about everyone agrees that it's easier and quicker to take both the engine and tranny out as one rather than try to finagle/manuever/coax them apart inside the engine bay.

 

its really simple to remove the tranny while the engine is in the car i wouldnt waste time taking the whole swap out to remove the tranny
and i do swaps all the time by my self with no engine hoist just put 2 jacks under the swap and un bolt the mounts drop it to the floor then jack the car high enough to slipe the swap out its really easy and do the same when putting it back in ive done atleast 100 swaps like this by myself

 

The whole process of re-filling, getting all the air out of the system, and letting the engine run w/ the radiator cap off until the thermostat opens, then shutting off and topping off the coolant takes at least an hour. Yes, this is the CORRECT way to do it.

 

iv never taken out the PS or ac compressor during a swap. but i dont use a cherry picker i go thru the bottom.

 

I don't mean take it out, but you have to get it out of the way. You don't just let them hang by their lines/hoses do you??