I have 400 dollars saved up for my next mod and i want your guy's opinion whether i should get a ctr intake cam or a lightened flywheel? What would be a better investment and what should i get first?

 

Get the Fly wheel

 

Flywheel without a doubt.

CTR intake cam needs VAFC and dyno tuning. FPR is optional. That's more than $400.

 

i say ctr cam --- i dont care if it needs tuning, dropping it in is still at least 6-7 whp....

 

Oh, yeah, the power dip at 4400 is just great.

If you do CTR intake cam, do it right, get the rest of the goods.

 

well, i already have a fields vafc so the cam would be my best choice?

 

yes - set vtec at 5600 or so

 

Get the flywheel, you'll get more out of it.

 

i cannot believe someone chose the cam over a flywheel


get the flywheel!!!

 

Another for you dude. 5600 rpm is NOT the magic VTEC engagement setting. It all depends what IM you have. Sure, ~5600 for ITR/Skunk2 IM, but ~4800-5100 rpm for GS-R IM.

 

Hmmmm, I would get the cam over the flywheel if your still on your stock clutch its pretty much useless changing it to a lighter flywheel if on stock clutch. I would put a lighter flywheel on a brand new performance clutch thats my opinion. When i'm talking about the lighter fw i mean around 7-8lbs.

 

well perhaps i dont know much - oh well, never heard that a flywheel was that great. sorry about that. we learn new stuff everyday.

 

Are you doing the install yourself or are you taking it to a shop?

Consider labor costs

 

does a lighter flywheel present problems for the crank balance like a crank pully?

 

Exactly... It's like 5 hours of labour (shop rate) to put in a flywheel. a single cam will be like 2hours (shop rate) to put in. Cams aren't too dificult to do yourself, but a flywheel is not so easy.

Keep in mind other stuff to. If you do a cam, you should really do cam gears. If you do a flywheel, you should really do a clutch... depends on your milage I guess too...

 

I AGREE@!!!!!

flywheel:
if you do it yourself:

flywheel:300$ plus
new clutch w/ all hardware and bearings: 250-400$
gear oil: 15-25$ (redline oil)
time: a lot of time if you are not mechnically inclined or have never done it before

if you have someone else do it:

labor: 100-150$
new clutch:250-400$
gear oil: included(maybe?)

downside on this is that MOST shops will NOT warranty the parts if you do bring it to them....basically you will have to buy it from them...if something goes wrong you are assed out


CAMS:

if you do it yourself:

cams:250$-300$ (intake only)
oil1 quart or less) 1.00
cam seal donuts: 12$(qty:2)(acura only)
cam seal:5-10$(acura)
honda bond: 11$
vavle cover gasket and all other seals if NOT reusable: 30$ for the vavle cover set

if you have A SHOP do it:

labor: 100-250$
cams:250-300$
all necessary gaskets from them: ?
oil:included?

PROS AND CONS:


CONS:::::cams:
redline has to stay at stock, considering you still have stock valve springs
need to upgrade fuel pressure reg. to optimize power
YOU MUST INSTALL THEM RIGHT OR YOU WILL RUN INTO A MESS OF PROBLEMS: change all necessary gaskets or you will run into leaks and junk

PROS:::::cams
more HP
not too much downtime


CONS:::::flywheel
labor is very extensive(since labor is so high, might as well change out everything inside the tranny...clutch, bearings...etc)
you need a reputable flywheel so that you have no problems

PROS::::flywheel
revs a lot faster
if your clutch is bad you gain 2 PROS instead of 1

when thinking between the 2, think this....will my clutch go bad soon?if NOT, go with the cams, IF you think you need a new clutch in the NEAR future, get a flywheel......HTH




[Modified by gokooljapan, 9:16 PM 5/31/2002]

 

I didn't have a loss of torque with my 7lb flywheel, in fact no one I know with a flywheel has had a loss of torque. The cam will also require tuning time if you want to get the most out of it.

 

on the ctr cam, you really dont need to tune it....it is very minimal....maybe like a .5+- on the intake.....my freind is a tuner and he rarely sees a need for cam gears with CTR cams......but my bad on the flywheel.....i think you are right on that one.....ill take that back...

 

save up and purchase the toda flywheel/exedy clutch deal for 720 from randdmotorsports.com.

 

I also forgot to tell you guys that i already have camgears. it came with the car. What would be a better investment for the quarter mile?

 

Just ask yourself is your clutch dyin out? If not go with the cams.

 

 

How about you save your money? Then you can be a flywheel and a clutch, or get an intake and exhaust cam (both cams for less than $500 if you shop around).

Also, a flywheel and cam are so different that this question is bordering on rediculous (no offense). They serve completely different fuctions. It's like asking people whether you should buy a bodykit or wheels. You'll only get blind opinion.

Since you sound like you're going to get both in the end, why don't you save up more money, and get both and do the intire install at once? Take off a week or more of work if possible and install it all yourself. No matter how new you are to mechanics you can get it done properly if you are patient and organized.

 

just save a little more money and get a nice clutch to go with the flywheel.

 

CTR intake cam.

If you do the flywheel, you'll need to do the clutch and that's more money in parts and labor if you aren't doing it yourself.

Flywheel/clutch should be next after dialing in the cams.