Ok stuff is really messing up. I cant even turn the a/c on anymore because when I do the engine gets very close to stalling and whenever I press on the gas it hesitates a lot and doesnt take off, like there is no fuel going to the engine. this is really getting bad. When the a/c is off I dont have these problems. I need help really desperately! Anyone?!?

 

could be a bad AC compressor..might be all seized up...are you getting cold air at all when you turn it on??

 

someone else said it might be the compressor. yeah cold air does come out but it isnt anywhere near as cold as a civic I drove the other day. it does take forever to cool down the inside of my car. keep the ideas coming...

 

The stupid honda dealership over here said they would need about 2 hours of diagnostics to figure out what it is, at $80/hour. My car is under warranty but I will still have to pay the first 100. on top of that if the problem they find isnt covered under warranty then I will have to pay for those 2 hours of diagnostics and I dont have that money. I dont even have the $100 if it was covered. so im hoping to solve this problem myself, because I cant fix it any other way. I have posted on two other tech forums hoping for some answers.

 

btw what year is the car...I could only say the compressor because from what you say..when you turn the AC on that starts the compressor and thats your main power for AC...if your not gonna replace that yourself be prepaired to pay big money

 

its a 98. If I determine it is the compressor im going to take it back to the dealership and this time actualy have something to tell them as far as what needs to be replaced. if not I could do it myself. Im an aircraft mechanic in training so im sure I could do it.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by crizmotek &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The stupid honda dealership over here said they would need about 2 hours of diagnostics to figure out what it is, at $80/hour. My car is under warranty but I will still have to pay the first 100. on top of that if the problem they find isnt covered under warranty then I will have to pay for those 2 hours of diagnostics and I dont have that money. I dont even have the $100 if it was covered. so im hoping to solve this problem myself, because I cant fix it any other way. I have posted on two other tech forums hoping for some answers.</TD></TR></TABLE>
DON'T let them do a Diagnosis on your car...especially 2 hours...thats a bunch of bullshit....Ive worked in Service of auto repair myself and there onlyl charging you that so it can pay their mechanics....it takes two seconds to figure out a problem(most of the time except electrical but thats a different story) go there and tell them you know what it is and you just want it replaced...the only thing they might charge you should be an AC check which is state law and that shouldn't be more than 50 bucks

 

alright, I knew it was a bunch of bull. are there any other possibilities other then the compressor so I dont look like an idiot if that isnt it. the compressor does make the most sense though. if the compressor is seized and the crank dries to turn it, I can see how it would cause me problems.

 

holly crap, I was looking at prices for a new a/c compressor and they cost atleast 600 big ones. hopefully I can get the warranty to cover it or maybe have it repaired instead of replaced.

 

that should be under warranty...If it isn't ....dont flip out on the ******** that will try to rip you off.....simple go the manager of that dealership and talk to them...I could almost guarantee they would hook you up... and if not **** it take that **** out.....weight reduction like WHOA!!!!!!!

 

the guys at the dealership will probably try to link every mod I have to the a/c compressor. taking it out would be nice but I live in Houston, we NEED the a/c here. plus its my daily driver. thanks for all the help. -chris

 

does anyone know what actualy causes a compressor to go bad and seize up?

 

ok now im just more pissed then before. I have been running without a/c for a couple weeks and things were, for the most part, ok. now im having the exact same problem with the a/c off. its getting worse every time I drive. its worse once the engine has heated up/became heat soaked. im not sure what that means. could it be the ecu or a sensor such as the airflow meter? sh*t im trying to think of anything and everything it could be.

 

I had the same problem with my 97 LS. Only when I turned my AC on that it started to lag and idle rough. I thought it was the compressor too, but I figured it out when I swapped in my B20.... the dang header was cracked! Take the heat shield off and check your header for some hairline fractures. Hope this helps.

 

I have dc s/s headers on my ls. I didnt notice any cracks last time I looked. how would that cause the problems I am describing anyways?

 

I don't know bro, I just thought any shot in the dark would help. Don't have the problem anymore though. (changed everything to B20)

 

yeah it cant be that though, just a few minutes ago on the way home it got really bad. when taking off from a light I would floor it and the car would barely move. it would studder at a high rate then after about 4 seconds it will catch and work ok.

 

well how often do you run the ac? not running the ac will not lubricate the compressor and make it lock up. you shouldnt change the ac compressor on your car because you dont have a way to elease the freon the legal way. if someone catches you releasing it that is a very big fine. plus you would still have to get it servised up. you cannot do that your self because you need a lisence to buy the r134 freon, and you have to know which side of the compressor to put it in.

 

I wasnt planning on doing it myself. I can have it done free under warranty, well actualy I have to pay the first 100 bucks. I just dont understand why my car is chocking like this, even when the a/c is off.

 

i thougt you said you didnt have probs with it off.

 

"ok now im just more pissed then before. I have been running without a/c for a couple weeks and things were, for the most part, ok. now im having the exact same problem with the a/c off.its getting worse every time I drive. its worse once the engine has heated up/became heat soaked. im not sure what that means. could it be the ecu or a sensor such as the airflow meter? sh*t im trying to think of anything and everything it could be."



Modified by crizmotek at 12:59 AM 10/17/2003

 

is the check eng, light on?

 

nope, nothing yet.

 

wouldnt be a sensor then. check for moisture in the distributor cap and around connectors. im not sure really. does it just hesitate, or miss, i mean exactly what does it do. can you duplicate it. does it doing crusing, just idleing, accelerating... when.

 

it hesitates and studders when you accelerate from a low gear or downshift to a low gear. yes, it can be dublicated, happens all the time now. especialy once the engine has warmed up, like after being in traffic for a while, but not limited to that. when the engine is idleing it does idle down to almost 500 then goes back up. it does that about every 10 seconds and more often then that when the a/c is on.