i know some engines accept bolt ons better than others
example bolt ons on a b series dont generaly do much justice.

how well does the b18 ls accpet bolt ons. is it worth the time and money or is turboing and lsvtech the only real way to make a noticable difference. i dont poticularly have any interest in doing the whole ls vtech thing its a bit more than i want to get into, im just looking to improve the engine until a get a turbo together.

im mainly asking about bolt ons because its my daily i cant afford to have it down for more than a weekend to do any real internal work. atleast not any time soon.

 

Been there , done that , not worth it

 

if your going to boost it just wait till you boost it. No point in wasting money now. Also before you get flamed it's vtec not vtech.

 

If you feel like a little more power and a nice sound, intake, header and exhaust. Headers about $150+, exhaust $300+ and intake $100+. You will feel a bit more power on the top end but not like a turbo.

 

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Yep as he said, if you already are set on turboing it, just save your money because all of those boltons are just going to be replaced when you go turbo.

 

just go with wheels and suspension and cosmetics for now. then boost when u have the money.

 

I wouldn't waste money on bolt ons. Unless it is Supercharged or something. You will only see a few HP in gains, not really worth it.
As said before save money till you can do something big; turbo, supercharger, or something like that.

 

tech is just a spelling habbit,

but yeah thats all i need to know its decided.
header, catback have been done already still using a factory style muffler just because i hate fart cans ill figure out what muffler to use later.
everyone tells me magnaflow flow master etc. but they are all louder than what im looking for either way.

but yeah hold off for turbo

 

b16/b18c/b18c5 tranny for your first mod.

 

you can get the intake and exhaust because later when you turbo you can still use both but dont waste money on headers

 

i agree, with the money you spend on i/h/e you could buy a used gsr tranny. Your car will still be a reliable daily driver and the gains will be more significant. Also, you can still go turbo later without wasting money on the intake and header.

 

save up the money and get a turbo kit...worth the money

 

Turbo Kit is a great bolt on!

 

If your going to boost it put an lsd in it and get a better clutch, and work on suspension and brakes. save up for a good setup. i would keep the ls tranny because of the 3rd gear is great for boost and not so good for na, thats my .02 cents

 

what gains would there be using a gsr tranny to begin with.
and i know the ls is a popular engine to turbo but is it still going to be reliable as a daily.
i just think of a few freinds one of which always has his car pulled apart tying to fix something in his turbo ls vtec eg and another whos itr swapped civic coupe is broke down constantly for 2 3 days at a time. makes me wunder if i wanna turbo it or just do all internal work and leave it. cams pistons rods crank sleeves etc.

another thing i bought the car and it had no air filter went to pick one up today and was gonna buy a filter simply called "turbo vortex filter" figured whatever was the first one i saw and it was black not red blue and all that crap. anyways cost 80 bucks so i got a cheaper one for now for 15. anyone heard of it and why the hell is it so much does it make 75 bucks worth of difference? didnt seem like it should cost 80 bucks. thing better blow me while im driving if imma pay that much for a air filter

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by o0Jash0o &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what gains would there be using a gsr tranny to begin with.
and i know the ls is a popular engine to turbo but is it still going to be reliable as a daily.
i just think of a few freinds one of which always has his car pulled apart tying to fix something in his turbo ls vtec eg and another whos itr swapped civic coupe is broke down constantly for 2 3 days at a time. makes me wunder if i wanna turbo it or just do all internal work and leave it. cams pistons rods crank sleeves etc.

another thing i bought the car and it had no air filter went to pick one up today and was gonna buy a filter simply called "turbo vortex filter" figured whatever was the first one i saw and it was black not red blue and all that crap. anyways cost 80 bucks so i got a cheaper one for now for 15. anyone heard of it and why the hell is it so much does it make 75 bucks worth of difference? didnt seem like it should cost 80 bucks. thing better blow me while im driving if imma pay that much for a air filter</TD></TR></TABLE>

i really dont understand anything you said about the air filter...
and about the gsr tranny, it'll make a noticable difference, if you have the choice and funds, get the gsr, or even a type r with the oem lsd. That'll make an even bigger difference.


about your friends... did they have the proper engine management and whatnot to make them run reliably?

WOOOT!!! 2000 posts!

 

forget the airfilter its dumb. but the itr 95 coupe was bought with the swap suspension and slipstreams already on and done with but seems like every other week hes having an injector problem or transmission or clutch it goes on and on, its a fast car dont get me wrong but its always crapping out on him as for the ls vtec turbo eg im thinking it just might be the owner they had a b16 civic and sprayed it till the engine died. turbo ls teg ...let something get sucked into the turbo right after he installed it, lsvtec teg could never get the whole lsvtec thing to work properly and was always blowing fuses and eventually fried the wiring harness ...as of now i have no idea why his eg is sitting on jack stands with the bumper pulled off. havnt wanted to ask.

they`ll both prolly see this thread and get pissed but oh well. my car moves

i think the itr was run into the dirt before he bought it but then again you should expect that of any 5 speed honda product. people buy them abuse them and sell them constantly. just seems everyone i know with a bunch of **** under the hood are always having problems.

its kinda makes me uneasy when it comes to turboing my car after seeing everyone else have problems.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by o0Jash0o &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">forget the airfilter its dumb. but the itr 95 coupe was bought with the swap suspension and slipstreams already on and done with but seems like every other week hes having an injector problem or transmission or clutch it goes on and on, its a fast car dont get me wrong but its always crapping out on him as for the ls vtec turbo eg im thinking it just might be the owner they had a b16 civic and sprayed it till the engine died. turbo ls teg ...let something get sucked into the turbo right after he installed it, lsvtec teg could never get the whole lsvtec thing to work properly and was always blowing fuses and eventually fried the wiring harness ...as of now i have no idea why his eg is sitting on jack stands with the bumper pulled off. havnt wanted to ask.

they`ll both prolly see this thread and get pissed but oh well. my car moves

i think the itr was run into the dirt before he bought it but then again you should expect that of any 5 speed honda product. people buy them abuse them and sell them constantly. just seems everyone i know with a bunch of **** under the hood are always having problems.

its kinda makes me uneasy when it comes to turboing my car after seeing everyone else have problems.</TD></TR></TABLE>

if your car is fine now, and runs exactly like it should, then why wouldnt it run right if you properly install a turbo, with a good tune?
as long as you put together, or buy, a good turbo kit with ems, then there isnt any reason why it wouldnt run right.

 

im more worried about how long it will last, cuz turbos put more ware on the engine

 

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again, it depends on the tune and the condition of your engine.
Also the amount of power you make affects it.
how you maintain it
how you drive it.

there are countless things that can kill it fastt.

 

a turbo'd setup does not put more wear on the engine. the tune helps the engine to run its best with the newfound power. if you beat on your engine while turbo'd then your putting wear on the engine. even if you had just bolts ons and you beat on it, your putting wear on the engine.

 

a turbo is bolt on

 

Doh! i meant cai, header, exhaust.

 

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I would say, go for exhaust and suspension, then an LSD tranny. The headers and intake would be replaced by the turbo. If you're going to boost get at least a 3" exhaust. Yes a turbo will cause more wear. But with a turbo, you can boost only when you want/need it and roll around at stock compression the rest of the time, as opposed to having a high compression N/A monster.