B18B vs. B18A differrence?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1990acuraian »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well i bought an acura integra ls from 1990 that has a b18b1 in it. looks to be the stock engine in it. also i bought it for 350 bucks beat that.
b18b1 in 1990-93 acura integra ls special edition's and in 90-92 GS
b16a1 in late 1992 gs later gs-R
b18a1 in integra RS
honda specialest told me this
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your wrong
b18a1 90-93 integra LS/RS/GS
b18b 94-01 integra LS/RS/GS
b17a 92-93 integra GSR
this honda specialist must be a dumb ****, who agrees that thats right?
b18b1 in 1990-93 acura integra ls special edition's and in 90-92 GS
b16a1 in late 1992 gs later gs-R
b18a1 in integra RS
honda specialest told me this
</TD></TR></TABLE>your wrong
b18a1 90-93 integra LS/RS/GS
b18b 94-01 integra LS/RS/GS
b17a 92-93 integra GSR
this honda specialist must be a dumb ****, who agrees that thats right?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by crxspaz »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">......the b18b has about 10 more horse power than the b18a</TD></TR></TABLE>
Ummm no.
90-91 b18a- 130 hp
92-93 b18a- 140 hp
94+ b18b- 142 hp
Ummm no.
90-91 b18a- 130 hp
92-93 b18a- 140 hp
94+ b18b- 142 hp
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by crxspaz »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the b18b has about 10 more horse power than the b18a</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Ummm no.
90-91 b18a- 130 hp
92-93 b18a- 140 hp
94+ b18b- 142 hp</TD></TR></TABLE>
I'm sure if you put some stickers on your teg you'll make up for that 8hp difference
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Ummm no.
90-91 b18a- 130 hp
92-93 b18a- 140 hp
94+ b18b- 142 hp</TD></TR></TABLE>
I'm sure if you put some stickers on your teg you'll make up for that 8hp difference
the blocks have no hp differance. the ever so slight power differance is from the head from 92+.
b18a blocks fan switch/ coolent temp switch is on the block next to the oil filter. b18b and all 94+ b seris blocks has the fan switch on the thermostate housing.
92+ heads has bigger cams and a bigger im.
some cable ls trannies are also geared shorted than hydro ls trannies.
90-91 also used the smaller spline clutch disc when as 92+ clutches are the same as hydro trannies except for the throw out bearing.
i have picked up several b18a long blocks for 100-$200.
b18b's are priced much more than b18a's for no apparent reason. if you find a good running b18a just get that
b18a blocks fan switch/ coolent temp switch is on the block next to the oil filter. b18b and all 94+ b seris blocks has the fan switch on the thermostate housing.
92+ heads has bigger cams and a bigger im.
some cable ls trannies are also geared shorted than hydro ls trannies.
90-91 also used the smaller spline clutch disc when as 92+ clutches are the same as hydro trannies except for the throw out bearing.
i have picked up several b18a long blocks for 100-$200.
b18b's are priced much more than b18a's for no apparent reason. if you find a good running b18a just get that
naw. just alot of stupid people sayin stupid things. man get the block if you want. and learn from your mistakes. we all did it. but if you gonna get a b18a then get a 92-93 one. so its not to hard to change things over. cuz if you get a 90-91 like the other guys said then you gonna have to changed the coolant temperature sensor. and its all just dumb time wasting
yea,this thread is heavily fucked up with people who are trying to shine,when they are confused themselves.
DONT QUOTE ME ON ANY OF THIS ****...this is WHAT I HAVE RESEARCHED :
B18A1= came in the 90-93 integra RS,LS,GS models
B18B1= came in the 94-2001 integra RS,LS,GS,and SE models
B18A1 = obd0 for 90-91,and then obd 1 for the 92-93 models
B18B1= is obd 1 for the 94-95 models,and Obd2 for 96-01 models
B18A1 = 130 for the 90-91 years and 140 for the 92-93 years
B18B1 = 142 BHP for all years 94-01
B18A1 = 58mm throttle body
B18B1 = 60mm throttle body
B18A1 = cams die out at ???
B18B1 = cams die out at 6800 rpm (which is longer than the b18a1)
B18A1= The vacuums sources for the intake manifold are different than the B18B1 intake manifold
theres a lot of differences..its just the fact that the only thing that really matters..is the On board diagnostics...who gives a expletive about the 2 extra HP,and throttle body sizes...if you are planning to build..all of that will be replaced...but like i said..some of my info might be wrong..so dont quote me.
Modified by DC4cedInducted at 5:07 PM 12/10/2005
DONT QUOTE ME ON ANY OF THIS ****...this is WHAT I HAVE RESEARCHED :
B18A1= came in the 90-93 integra RS,LS,GS models
B18B1= came in the 94-2001 integra RS,LS,GS,and SE models
B18A1 = obd0 for 90-91,and then obd 1 for the 92-93 models
B18B1= is obd 1 for the 94-95 models,and Obd2 for 96-01 models
B18A1 = 130 for the 90-91 years and 140 for the 92-93 years
B18B1 = 142 BHP for all years 94-01
B18A1 = 58mm throttle body
B18B1 = 60mm throttle body
B18A1 = cams die out at ???
B18B1 = cams die out at 6800 rpm (which is longer than the b18a1)
B18A1= The vacuums sources for the intake manifold are different than the B18B1 intake manifold
theres a lot of differences..its just the fact that the only thing that really matters..is the On board diagnostics...who gives a expletive about the 2 extra HP,and throttle body sizes...if you are planning to build..all of that will be replaced...but like i said..some of my info might be wrong..so dont quote me.
Modified by DC4cedInducted at 5:07 PM 12/10/2005
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by benb18a »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">mostly right, but 90-91 has 130 hp. </TD></TR></TABLE>
i knew i was missing that..i forgot to go back and edit it...thanks
i knew i was missing that..i forgot to go back and edit it...thanks
b18b1 in 1990-1993 integra special editions
no real difference in the engines sure the cams might be dsifferent but hay who cares. but in some there are b17a1 (crappy vtec) its not worth your time to try to tune a b17a1.
no real difference in the engines sure the cams might be dsifferent but hay who cares. but in some there are b17a1 (crappy vtec) its not worth your time to try to tune a b17a1.
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U sure about that?
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U sure about that?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1990acuraian »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">b18b1 in 1990-1993 integra special editions
no real difference in the engines sure the cams might be dsifferent but hay who cares. but in some there are b17a1 (crappy vtec) its not worth your time to try to tune a b17a1.
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Buhahahahah this post made me laugh
no real difference in the engines sure the cams might be dsifferent but hay who cares. but in some there are b17a1 (crappy vtec) its not worth your time to try to tune a b17a1.
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Buhahahahah this post made me laugh
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1990acuraian »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">b18b1 in 1990-1993 integra special editions
no real difference in the engines sure the cams might be dsifferent but hay who cares. but in some there are b17a1 (crappy vtec) its not worth your time to try to tune a b17a1.
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lol, wrong....90-93 had 2 different gens of the b18a1. im also going to disregard that comment about the b17 engine. they are a really good engine just so you know...take alook at the stock power drop offs between a b17a1 engine and a b18c1 and youll see what i mean.
no real difference in the engines sure the cams might be dsifferent but hay who cares. but in some there are b17a1 (crappy vtec) its not worth your time to try to tune a b17a1.
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lol, wrong....90-93 had 2 different gens of the b18a1. im also going to disregard that comment about the b17 engine. they are a really good engine just so you know...take alook at the stock power drop offs between a b17a1 engine and a b18c1 and youll see what i mean.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1990acuraian »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">b18b1 in 1990-1993 integra special editions
no real difference in the engines sure the cams might be dsifferent but hay who cares. but in some there are b17a1 (crappy vtec) its not worth your time to try to tune a b17a1.
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WTF, dude u gotta do some searching and learning before u start ragging on motors soo far ur second post isnt to smart....
b17a1 putting down 160 hp stock is actully a very good motor....(not worth time to tune) what the hell does that mean?
no real difference in the engines sure the cams might be dsifferent but hay who cares. but in some there are b17a1 (crappy vtec) its not worth your time to try to tune a b17a1.
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WTF, dude u gotta do some searching and learning before u start ragging on motors soo far ur second post isnt to smart....
b17a1 putting down 160 hp stock is actully a very good motor....(not worth time to tune) what the hell does that mean?
i dont like them you might b right about the b18a1 haveing 2 gens though.
to me, the b17a1 isnt a very nice engine.if you like trying to find parts for one especially. i havent seen them for a while. last time i worked on one it was in a 1993 gsr or something from 93. i dont like them. as or 5 days ago anyway i put in a b18c1 and good lord was it a pain in the *** to go from non-vtec to vtec.
to me, the b17a1 isnt a very nice engine.if you like trying to find parts for one especially. i havent seen them for a while. last time i worked on one it was in a 1993 gsr or something from 93. i dont like them. as or 5 days ago anyway i put in a b18c1 and good lord was it a pain in the *** to go from non-vtec to vtec.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1990acuraian »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i dont like them you might b right about the b18a1 haveing 2 gens though.
to me, the b17a1 isnt a very nice engine.if you like trying to find parts for one especially. i havent seen them for a while. last time i worked on one it was in a 1993 gsr or something from 93. i dont like them. as or 5 days ago anyway i put in a b18c1 and good lord was it a pain in the *** to go from non-vtec to vtec.</TD></TR></TABLE>
what the hell are you talking about getting parts? the only thing that was hard to get for it were aftermarket rods, but now companies make them. most parts from a b-series are interchangable...thats why they have the same part numbers. the b17 is a stroked b16a. lol, but that your opinion....and your entitled to it.
to me, the b17a1 isnt a very nice engine.if you like trying to find parts for one especially. i havent seen them for a while. last time i worked on one it was in a 1993 gsr or something from 93. i dont like them. as or 5 days ago anyway i put in a b18c1 and good lord was it a pain in the *** to go from non-vtec to vtec.</TD></TR></TABLE>
what the hell are you talking about getting parts? the only thing that was hard to get for it were aftermarket rods, but now companies make them. most parts from a b-series are interchangable...thats why they have the same part numbers. the b17 is a stroked b16a. lol, but that your opinion....and your entitled to it.
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90-91 also used the smaller spline clutch disc when as 92+ clutches are the same as hydro trannies except for the throw out bearing.
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is this good info ?
90-91 also used the smaller spline clutch disc when as 92+ clutches are the same as hydro trannies except for the throw out bearing.
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is this good info ?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by crxspaz »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">1990-1991=obd 0
1992-1995=obd 1
obd 1 is the best!
1996-higher=obd2
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ok, i didn't know that obd1 was considered "better" than obd2, other than dealing with emissions. Can someone explain to me why it would be any better?
1992-1995=obd 1
obd 1 is the best!1996-higher=obd2
</TD></TR></TABLE>ok, i didn't know that obd1 was considered "better" than obd2, other than dealing with emissions. Can someone explain to me why it would be any better?
Thats the difference between hydro and cable,
Cable is smaller, and hydro is bigger.
Thats what I came up with when I was searching on hydros anyways.
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Read that again, and someone will probably start complaining that I said thats the Only difference.
I meant, thats One of the differences in a cable, and hydro trans.
I think maybe 93-94, hydro is on our tegs?
Cable is smaller, and hydro is bigger.
Thats what I came up with when I was searching on hydros anyways.
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Read that again, and someone will probably start complaining that I said thats the Only difference.
I meant, thats One of the differences in a cable, and hydro trans.
I think maybe 93-94, hydro is on our tegs?
info from ACT
pressure plate same from 90-01 for b-series
and 92-01 share the same disk big spline
but 90-91 has smaller spline
90-93 use the cable throw out bearing
94+ use hydro throw out bearing



