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Hawjap1gsr 01-28-2010 01:31 PM

94 integra going turbo
 
Hi guys. i am a newbie to this site, so dont flame on me if i am posting in the wrong section. i read the posting rule already.

i pick up my 94 integra ls from fresno cali in jan 2009. its complete stock with no mods at all. i dd it for 6 months and didnt like the power at wot. so i have my spare 96 gsr motor that i swap into it to make a fun for the weekend. motor was bolt on with spray. i had fun with it for about a week and decide that i wanted more power. so now i am where i am going turbo.

some stuff i change was put on the lips, rear spoiler, rota slips, lower on kyb shock and no name adjustable coil, front and rear camber kit, complete sturt bar from top to bottem at front and rear. amber corner lights and just other little stuff.

picture
http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/a...DSC03852-1.jpg
http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/a...DSC03857-1.jpg
gsr motor put in. (nitrous still hook up)
http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/a...r/DSC03861.jpg
obx gt40r bb turbo
http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/a...r/DSC06168.jpg
block guard
http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/a...r/DSC06169.jpg
new bearing and arp head stud
http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/a...r/DSC06170.jpg
head gasket set.
http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/a...r/DSC06171.jpg
whole kit
http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/a...r/DSC06172.jpg

parts going into the built and cost
turbo kit with gauge cost me $900.00
obx gt40r bb turbo $950.00
Head gasket set $45.52
Arp head stud $134.00
Blox block guard $86.40
ACL bearing $53.33
Hondata s300j $650.00
Walbro 255 fuel pump $90.00
JE pistion/Eagle rod $744.00
Prescion 1200cc injector $291.00


Still need some more parts then i should be taking the motor apart and putting everything in.

next on my list is.
AEM wideband
Built the Head
Maybe sleeve my block
Upgrade Axles
Put motor together.

Hawjap1gsr 01-30-2010 12:27 PM

Re: 94 integra going turbo
 
anyone think the head can hold 18psi plus

nimixes 01-30-2010 12:29 PM

Re: 94 integra going turbo
 
very nice goodluck

95 integra 01-30-2010 12:31 PM

Re: 94 integra going turbo
 
The head wont be an issue. Also, are you sure that T4 turbo is going to bolt up to that manifold?

Hawjap1gsr 01-30-2010 03:08 PM

Re: 94 integra going turbo
 

Originally Posted by nimixes (Post 41414693)
very nice goodluck

thanks. i hope luck is on my side on this built.

Hawjap1gsr 01-30-2010 03:16 PM

Re: 94 integra going turbo
 

Originally Posted by 95 integra (Post 41414711)
The head wont be an issue. Also, are you sure that T4 turbo is going to bolt up to that manifold?

so the valve and spring wont flow? yes the t4 turbo will bolt up with this manifold because the manifold is already custom cut and welded with a t4 plate. i already try bolting it up also and it fits without rubbing on the block or front frame.

Hawjap1gsr 02-01-2010 12:14 PM

Re: 94 integra going turbo
 
bump

95 integra 02-01-2010 12:26 PM

Re: 94 integra going turbo
 

Originally Posted by Hawjap1gsr (Post 41416232)
so the valve and spring wont flow? yes the t4 turbo will bolt up with this manifold because the manifold is already custom cut and welded with a t4 plate. i already try bolting it up also and it fits without rubbing on the block or front frame.

Interesting that it doesnt rub with that manifold. Anyway, you should have no issue with valve float unless you plan on revving past redline or push some extreme amount of boost. Most likely the sleeves will give out before you float a valve.

steveDC2 02-01-2010 12:35 PM

Re: 94 integra going turbo
 
u should hot tank ur motor and clean up the engine bay a bit before u put the motor back in :thumbup:

Hawjap1gsr 02-01-2010 12:55 PM

Re: 94 integra going turbo
 

Originally Posted by 95 integra (Post 41433708)
Interesting that it doesnt rub with that manifold. Anyway, you should have no issue with valve float unless you plan on revving past redline or push some extreme amount of boost. Most likely the sleeves will give out before you float a valve.

yeah took a while to weld up the manifold to fit. you want to i can take some photo and show you how its welded up. the car will be only going to 8200 rpm. trying for 20psi if it can hold on a good tune.

Hawjap1gsr 02-01-2010 12:56 PM

Re: 94 integra going turbo
 

Originally Posted by steveDC2 (Post 41433805)
u should hot tank ur motor and clean up the engine bay a bit before u put the motor back in :thumbup:

yup. my motor is kinda trashy with wire everywhere and stuff like that. i will be cleaning it up and doing little wire tuck before everything goes back in.

CRACKINVTEC007 02-01-2010 01:06 PM

Re: 94 integra going turbo
 
BUMP+++++++++:drink:

95 integra 02-01-2010 03:00 PM

Re: 94 integra going turbo
 

Originally Posted by CRACKINVTEC007 (Post 41434136)
BUMP+++++++++:drink:


WTF? Bump?

H25 02-01-2010 04:20 PM

Re: 94 integra going turbo
 

Originally Posted by 95 integra (Post 41435313)
WTF? Bump?

I think that means he likes it. LoL

Hawjap1gsr 02-01-2010 05:53 PM

Re: 94 integra going turbo
 
^lol

anyone seen obx bb turbo in use before?

Hawjap1gsr 02-02-2010 05:46 AM

Re: 94 integra going turbo
 
here goes a closer look at the custom mani and turbo together.
http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/a...r/DSC06492.jpg
http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/a...DSC03846-2.jpg
http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/a...DSC03847-2.jpg
some more picture of other things
http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/a...DSC04352-1.jpg
http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/a...r/DSC06491.jpg

srok1 02-02-2010 10:55 AM

Re: 94 integra going turbo
 
havent heard of anyone putting an obx turbo in their car yet. let us know how it goes.

95 integra 02-02-2010 11:28 AM

Re: 94 integra going turbo
 
Interesting, everything looks good though. You might hit a limiting factor with that manifold, but you should still be able to get 300-350whp out of it. Seems like my cast manifold like that ran out of gas around 330whp. Given I could've leaned it out and gotten 350-375 out of it, but I didnt care to do that. Good to see you have the S300 though.

Have a pic of the turbine (exhaust side) wheel?

Gamerchiq 02-02-2010 11:38 AM

Re: 94 integra going turbo
 
Im not bashing, but it seems like you put a lot of money into your turbo and just used whatever manifold you could find. I had a log on my first car and very quickly wished i had gone with a nicer manifold. A good manifold will help a shitty turbo work better, but a bad manifold will hinder everything

Hawjap1gsr 02-02-2010 06:56 PM

Re: 94 integra going turbo
 

Originally Posted by srok1 (Post 41444872)
havent heard of anyone putting an obx turbo in their car yet. let us know how it goes.

i will once everything is up and running. hoping for the best of it since it cost so much.

Hawjap1gsr 02-02-2010 06:59 PM

Re: 94 integra going turbo
 

Originally Posted by 95 integra (Post 41445288)
Interesting, everything looks good though. You might hit a limiting factor with that manifold, but you should still be able to get 300-350whp out of it. Seems like my cast manifold like that ran out of gas around 330whp. Given I could've leaned it out and gotten 350-375 out of it, but I didnt care to do that. Good to see you have the S300 though.

Have a pic of the turbine (exhaust side) wheel?

so this manifold will be max out at that power? hmm. maybe a new manifold should be put on then. yeah the s300 is like a must because i dont want all my money running down the drain. i can take some picture of it later of the exhaust side .

Hawjap1gsr 02-02-2010 07:00 PM

Re: 94 integra going turbo
 

Originally Posted by Gamerchiq (Post 41445417)
Im not bashing, but it seems like you put a lot of money into your turbo and just used whatever manifold you could find. I had a log on my first car and very quickly wished i had gone with a nicer manifold. A good manifold will help a shitty turbo work better, but a bad manifold will hinder everything

can you tell me what manifold would be a good choice? i dont know what the bad side affect can be on this manifold since this is my first turbo car. but i would a lot of motor. just my first turbo built.

Schister66 02-02-2010 07:30 PM

Re: 94 integra going turbo
 
You should read through the Forced Induction forum, namely the FAQ (at the top of the forum page) and make sure you're not making any of the cardinal "nOOb" errors in your build. Good luck! If you need any help, you can feel free to PM me any questions. I have built several turbo setups for myself and others and would be able to guide you in the right direction.

Hawjap1gsr 02-02-2010 08:34 PM

Re: 94 integra going turbo
 

Originally Posted by Schister66 (Post 41450090)
You should read through the Forced Induction forum, namely the FAQ (at the top of the forum page) and make sure you're not making any of the cardinal "nOOb" errors in your build. Good luck! If you need any help, you can feel free to PM me any questions. I have built several turbo setups for myself and others and would be able to guide you in the right direction.

i read a couple of those FAQ and they do help alot. thanks for the right guide line. i see that you use e85 on your car. there one close to where i live. do you think i am better off using that on my car once turbo?

steveDC2 02-02-2010 08:57 PM

Re: 94 integra going turbo
 

Originally Posted by Hawjap1gsr (Post 41434030)
yup. my motor is kinda trashy with wire everywhere and stuff like that. i will be cleaning it up and doing little wire tuck before everything goes back in.

haha yea i looks pretty messy, i think u should also get a new valve cover or repaint that one

bigislandc2 02-02-2010 10:42 PM

Re: 94 integra going turbo
 
that manifold will not hold up if its cast. the turbo is to large and a lot of block cutting will be needed. you should consider in replacing the mani with an equal length ramhorn and a 3" dp and replace the turbo with something smaller.
how much psi are planning on runnning? a bigger turbo against a smaller gt28 for example will be alot different due to turbo size even if youre running the same psi.

Schister66 02-03-2010 05:42 AM

Re: 94 integra going turbo
 
You could use E85, but there is a point where it doesn't make sense to use it. I'm not sure what your power goals or setup really is....stock block? Power goal? The nice thing about E85 is it's equivalent 107 octane rating which allows you to make a lot of power on 'pump' gas. The problem is that it requires about 30% more fuel than gasoline which in turn requires larger injectors (and at some point, a larger fuel pump).

Hawjap1gsr 02-03-2010 11:13 AM

Re: 94 integra going turbo
 

Originally Posted by steveDC2 (Post 41451112)
haha yea i looks pretty messy, i think u should also get a new valve cover or repaint that one

yeah i dont even like popping up my hood anymore because the way it look. i am going to powercoat the valve cover.

Hawjap1gsr 02-03-2010 11:18 AM

Re: 94 integra going turbo
 

Originally Posted by bigislandc2 (Post 41452083)
that manifold will not hold up if its cast. the turbo is to large and a lot of block cutting will be needed. you should consider in replacing the mani with an equal length ramhorn and a 3" dp and replace the turbo with something smaller.
how much psi are planning on runnning? a bigger turbo against a smaller gt28 for example will be alot different due to turbo size even if youre running the same psi.

the manifold is already custom cut and weld so that the turbo dont hit the block or the front frame. the turbine on the exhaust side is 3.5 dp. i like the ram horn manifold but they cost to much and i am on a buget built due to my s2000 getting ready for the show room too.i am only going for 17/18psi for dd and 23/25psi for fun on the street. i seen bigger turbo put out more power then smaller turbo on same psi before. but if i had the money i would really change up my manifold.

Hawjap1gsr 02-03-2010 11:20 AM

Re: 94 integra going turbo
 

Originally Posted by Schister66 (Post 41453317)
You could use E85, but there is a point where it doesn't make sense to use it. I'm not sure what your power goals or setup really is....stock block? Power goal? The nice thing about E85 is it's equivalent 107 octane rating which allows you to make a lot of power on 'pump' gas. The problem is that it requires about 30% more fuel than gasoline which in turn requires larger injectors (and at some point, a larger fuel pump).

its on a stock block with block guard only. i know its not the best set up like this. and its going to be the week point. my power goal is 400+. i am still in the process of getting rc 1000cc injector also. i do already have a walbro 255 fuel pump.

Schister66 02-03-2010 12:07 PM

Re: 94 integra going turbo
 
Well...the setup should be able to make 400whp or more, but the engine may have other plans. I know a number of guys have made over 400whp on bone stock blocks so it can be done...just know that it isn't the best idea if you're looking at this from a longevity standpoint. Good luck though! I'm hoping to take my built block over that 400whp mark this summer once i get my EBC wired correctly...i may just ditch in in lieu of another Hallman otherwise

bigislandc2 02-03-2010 01:25 PM

Re: 94 integra going turbo
 

Originally Posted by Hawjap1gsr (Post 41456599)
the manifold is already custom cut and weld so that the turbo dont hit the block or the front frame. the turbine on the exhaust side is 3.5 dp. i like the ram horn manifold but they cost to much and i am on a buget built due to my s2000 getting ready for the show room too.i am only going for 17/18psi for dd and 23/25psi for fun on the street. i seen bigger turbo put out more power then smaller turbo on same psi before. but if i had the money i would really change up my manifold.


17-25 psi is a lot of boost for a stock sleeved motor. i would run 10-12 psi at the most.
before i did my build on a my stock sleeved gsr with i beams and cp pistons CR at 8:1 the most safely i could get up to would be 23 psi car ran 10's w/ gt35 and c16 race fuel dyno tune..
on my car i run 25psi at the track and run low boost for dd if i ever drive it for dd im at 12psi and i have a variable boost controller to switch between both.

but youll just have to experience. but defiantly check out F.I. for alot of info..

slow96lude 02-03-2010 01:40 PM

Re: 94 integra going turbo
 
I would ditch the block guard if your planning on running that much boost. Go with a block filler like dexcron or moroso makes one too. It is much better that just having stability in the top part of your cylinders.

Schister66 02-03-2010 02:18 PM

Re: 94 integra going turbo
 
Just run open sleeves...no block guard, no dextron fill, no block posting, nothing...

Hawjap1gsr 02-03-2010 08:32 PM

Re: 94 integra going turbo
 

Originally Posted by Schister66 (Post 41457172)
Well...the setup should be able to make 400whp or more, but the engine may have other plans. I know a number of guys have made over 400whp on bone stock blocks so it can be done...just know that it isn't the best idea if you're looking at this from a longevity standpoint. Good luck though! I'm hoping to take my built block over that 400whp mark this summer once i get my EBC wired correctly...i may just ditch in in lieu of another Hallman otherwise

yeah i seen a couple been done before. i will hope for the best on this built since i dont push my car that hard. what ebc are you running with?

Hawjap1gsr 02-03-2010 08:33 PM

Re: 94 integra going turbo
 

Originally Posted by bigislandc2 (Post 41457891)
17-25 psi is a lot of boost for a stock sleeved motor. i would run 10-12 psi at the most.
before i did my build on a my stock sleeved gsr with i beams and cp pistons CR at 8:1 the most safely i could get up to would be 23 psi car ran 10's w/ gt35 and c16 race fuel dyno tune..
on my car i run 25psi at the track and run low boost for dd if i ever drive it for dd im at 12psi and i have a variable boost controller to switch between both.

but youll just have to experience. but defiantly check out F.I. for alot of info..

thanks. yeah its a lot of boost. how much power did you make with your set-up?

Hawjap1gsr 02-03-2010 08:34 PM

Re: 94 integra going turbo
 

Originally Posted by slow96lude (Post 41458039)
I would ditch the block guard if your planning on running that much boost. Go with a block filler like dexcron or moroso makes one too. It is much better that just having stability in the top part of your cylinders.

never seen a block filler. is it just like a block guard in a way?

TehGhett0P1mp 02-03-2010 11:06 PM

Re: 94 integra going turbo
 
Gl hitting 400 with that manifold..also stock motors dont last long at 400hp but if its just for fun that might not be a issue.

Either way good luck and id read the FI forums if you need help.

Btw please tune your car after its done.

Hawjap1gsr 02-04-2010 04:15 AM

Re: 94 integra going turbo
 

Originally Posted by TehGhett0P1mp (Post 41464137)
Gl hitting 400 with that manifold..also stock motors dont last long at 400hp but if its just for fun that might not be a issue.

Either way good luck and id read the FI forums if you need help.

Btw please tune your car after its done.


thanks. i will wish the best for the motor when its built.

the car will be tune once its done. :thumbup:

Schister66 02-04-2010 04:42 AM

Re: 94 integra going turbo
 

Originally Posted by Hawjap1gsr (Post 41462933)
what ebc are you running with?

Its a goofy Aussie EBC called the EBC V2 if i remember correctly....i can check if you're interested. Its basically just a boost solenoid with a switch that enables and disables it. Also the switch has a rheostat in it so you can adjust gain in the cab


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