low treadwear# = sticky tire?
06-05-2007, 02:22 PM
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low treadwear# = sticky tire?
i got these Bridgestone re92's from a guy for cheap with good tread, i was looking at the specs for kicks and I noticed the treadwear is 160!!! the azenis 615 are 200!!! I havent put them on yet but DHAM these will wear out quick, any one have a set of these?
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I had them on my teg for ~25k-30k miles. Still had another 25-30k left in them when I sold them. HOWEVER, they started skidding at every tiny rain puddle and performance was pretty crappy even in dry weather. One of the worst tires EVER. Look on Tirerack for reviews. I hope you got them extremely cheap, cause I wouldn't use them less than 65%.
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Re: low treadwear# = sticky tire? (Jer'rome)
the treadwear numbers serve as only the most cursory of indicators as to how sticky a tire is or how long it will last... like you said, azenis are a treadwear rating 200 and others that arent nearly as sticky and will last 3-4 times as long are not significantly higher than that.
06-05-2007, 05:52 PM
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Re: low treadwear# = sticky tire? (Voyage34)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Voyage34 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the treadwear numbers serve as only the most cursory of indicators as to how sticky a tire is or how long it will last... like you said, azenis are a treadwear rating 200 and others that arent nearly as sticky and will last 3-4 times as long are not significantly higher than that.</TD></TR></TABLE>
06-06-2007, 05:20 AM
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From my understanding, those treadwear numbers vary from one manufacturer to the next. So a Nitto tire with a 380 rating won't necessarily be the same as a Falken with a 380 rating.
06-06-2007, 07:11 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Racing rice »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">From my understanding, those treadwear numbers vary from one manufacturer to the next. So a Nitto tire with a 380 rating won't necessarily be the same as a Falken with a 380 rating.</TD></TR></TABLE>
yep, and often times theres even significant variance within manufacturers
yep, and often times theres even significant variance within manufacturers
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Re: low treadwear# = sticky tire? (Jer'rome)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jer’rome »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i got these Bridgestone re92's from a guy for cheap with good tread, i was looking at the specs for kicks and I noticed the treadwear is 160!!! the azenis 615 are 200!!! I havent put them on yet but DHAM these will wear out quick, any one have a set of these?</TD></TR></TABLE>
i doubt it is 160 treadwear for the RE92s.
Those are all season tires IRC. I had those. Nothing spectacular. Its only an OK all season tire.
i doubt it is 160 treadwear for the RE92s.
Those are all season tires IRC. I had those. Nothing spectacular. Its only an OK all season tire.
06-07-2007, 07:55 AM
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Re: low treadwear# = sticky tire? (EGPrelude)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EGPrelude »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
i doubt it is 160 treadwear for the RE92s.
Those are all season tires IRC. I had those. Nothing spectacular. Its only an OK all season tire.</TD></TR></TABLE><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by supersteven »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">RE92's really do have a 160 treadwear rating. That doesn't mean that they are sticky though.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Exactly, refer to this post:
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Voyage34 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the treadwear numbers serve as only the most cursory of indicators as to how sticky a tire is or how long it will last... like you said, azenis are a treadwear rating 200 and others that arent nearly as sticky and will last 3-4 times as long are not significantly higher than that.</TD></TR></TABLE>
i doubt it is 160 treadwear for the RE92s.
Those are all season tires IRC. I had those. Nothing spectacular. Its only an OK all season tire.</TD></TR></TABLE><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by supersteven »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">RE92's really do have a 160 treadwear rating. That doesn't mean that they are sticky though.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Exactly, refer to this post:
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Voyage34 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the treadwear numbers serve as only the most cursory of indicators as to how sticky a tire is or how long it will last... like you said, azenis are a treadwear rating 200 and others that arent nearly as sticky and will last 3-4 times as long are not significantly higher than that.</TD></TR></TABLE>
06-07-2007, 08:09 AM
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Re: low treadwear# = sticky tire? (FalkenSiR)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TireRack »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
UTQG Treadwear Grades are based on actual road use in which the test tire is run in a vehicle convoy along with standardized Course Monitoring Tires. The vehicle repeatedly runs a prescribed 400-mile test loop in West Texas for a total of 7,200 miles. The vehicle can have its alignment set, air pressure checked and tires rotated every 800 miles. The test tire's and the Monitoring Tire's wear are measured during and at the conclusion of the test. The tire manufacturers then assign a Treadwear Grade based on the observed wear rates. The Course Monitoring Tire is assigned a grade and the test tire receives a grade indicating its relative treadwear. A grade of 100 would indicate that the tire tread would last as long as the test tire, 200 would indicate the tread would last twice as long, 300 would indicate three times as long, etc.
The problem with UTQG Treadwear Grades is that they are open to some interpretation on the part of the tire manufacturer because they are assigned after the tire has only experienced a little treadwear as it runs the 7,200 miles. This means that the tire manufacturers need to extrapolate their raw wear data when they are assigning Treadwear Grades, and that their grades can to some extent reflect how conservative or optimistic their marketing department is. Typically, comparing the Treadwear Grades of tire lines within a single brand is somewhat helpful, while attempting to compare the grades between different brands is not as helpful.
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UTQG Treadwear Grades are based on actual road use in which the test tire is run in a vehicle convoy along with standardized Course Monitoring Tires. The vehicle repeatedly runs a prescribed 400-mile test loop in West Texas for a total of 7,200 miles. The vehicle can have its alignment set, air pressure checked and tires rotated every 800 miles. The test tire's and the Monitoring Tire's wear are measured during and at the conclusion of the test. The tire manufacturers then assign a Treadwear Grade based on the observed wear rates. The Course Monitoring Tire is assigned a grade and the test tire receives a grade indicating its relative treadwear. A grade of 100 would indicate that the tire tread would last as long as the test tire, 200 would indicate the tread would last twice as long, 300 would indicate three times as long, etc.
The problem with UTQG Treadwear Grades is that they are open to some interpretation on the part of the tire manufacturer because they are assigned after the tire has only experienced a little treadwear as it runs the 7,200 miles. This means that the tire manufacturers need to extrapolate their raw wear data when they are assigning Treadwear Grades, and that their grades can to some extent reflect how conservative or optimistic their marketing department is. Typically, comparing the Treadwear Grades of tire lines within a single brand is somewhat helpful, while attempting to compare the grades between different brands is not as helpful.
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06-11-2007, 05:47 AM
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tradewear ratings are like power ratings on an amplifier...
azenis are 200 and they are sticky...
goodyears eagle F1 i tihkn is up around 400 , but it dam near as sticky and last 3 times as long and its good in the rain ....but they are not cheap tires though .....i really dont thikn there is a way to sift through the manufacturers number. like others have siad read reviews. best thing to do
azenis are 200 and they are sticky...
goodyears eagle F1 i tihkn is up around 400 , but it dam near as sticky and last 3 times as long and its good in the rain ....but they are not cheap tires though .....i really dont thikn there is a way to sift through the manufacturers number. like others have siad read reviews. best thing to do
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