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Old 07-24-2011, 09:50 PM
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I have a 97 ITR trans 4.40 FD. I swap out the ITR 5th gear for a GSR 5th. I pulled everything (gears,syncros,slider,bearing) from the GSR 5th and Reverse out from the GSR main/counter shaft and put it onto the ITR main/counter shaft. Everything was working fine when I first droved the car, all gears shifted smooth and was running good for about a week, but just tonight I notice that it was difficult to get it in 5th and Reverse. The ITR 1st-4th gear shifts very good, but once you get to the GSR 5th gear, it will not go in, you would really have to force it to go in, but it's also weird cause when it wants to work, it goes in 5th perfectly.
Was there anything I should of look for, check clearence or anything when installing the gsr 5th and reverse? I need help trying to figure this out if anyone can help. thanks in advanced
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Default Re: itr trans w/ gsr 5th and reverse gear problem

What was the condition of the gear and sleeve/hub/synchros you put in?? What fluid did you use??
Old 07-26-2011, 06:17 PM
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i suppose the GSR 5th and reverse is good, because when it was in the GSR tranny, it was working good. Im using vavoline 10w30 motor oil
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for some weird reason i havent had problem getting it to shift into 5th gear
Old 08-18-2011, 07:23 PM
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okay still got that issue it does it on and off I need help!
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Default Re: itr trans w/ gsr 5th and reverse gear problem

Sounds like a worn/damaged 5th/Rev sleeve assembly. I would inspect them and go from there. Also did you make sure to add enough fluid per OEM requirements?
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Originally Posted by James@Gearspeed
Sounds like a worn/damaged 5th/Rev sleeve assembly. I would inspect them and go from there. Also did you make sure to add enough fluid per OEM requirements?
Im also noticing a clunk noise, sounds like its comming from either the TOB or inside transmission idk.
1: when I step on the clutch pedal, put it in 1st gear and quickly putting it back in nuetral and then release the clutch in a faster motion then i would hear the clunk noise.

2: when comming to a stop, with the tranny in nuetral, i would hear a few clunking noise before the car completely stops, then the clunk would go away.

also it seems like 2nd gear does not smoothly go in, but it does not grind either on low or high rpm.

I believe i put 2 or 2 and a half quart of 10w30 motor oil. whats the requirement btw??
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Default Re: itr trans w/ gsr 5th and reverse gear problem

2.3 quarts on a fluid change and 2.4 quarts after a rebuild

As for 2nd gear it can be an issue with the 1-2 sleeve assembly. As far as the clunking..hard to say without hearing it and seeing it first hand. Could range from a TOB to an internal shaft bearing to a bad differential bearing. Did you have any whining or noise issues other than that?
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Originally Posted by James@Gearspeed
2.3 quarts on a fluid change and 2.4 quarts after a rebuild

As for 2nd gear it can be an issue with the 1-2 sleeve assembly. As far as the clunking..hard to say without hearing it and seeing it first hand. Could range from a TOB to an internal shaft bearing to a bad differential bearing. Did you have any whining or noise issues other than that?
no whinning or other noise except when reversing it makes the reverse noise im guessing. but is 2.5 quart a little too much?
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Yes its a tad too much but not gonna cause those issues you are having. Overfilling the unit may cause sealing issues but, its not overfilled by much. If you want to be 100% sure of the correct fluid level: Put vehicle on level surface..remove fill bolt and allow excess fluid to pour out until it stops and that will be the correct amount of fluid.
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update,

i took off the trans and poped it open and found 1 of the 3 10mm screw that holds the shift assembly loose, retighten that 10mm bolt up clean and reseal the trans case and put it back on, now tranny shifts like butter.
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Default Re: itr trans w/ gsr 5th and reverse gear problem

oops! Glad you found your problem!
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