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JONBLAZE55555 Jun 18, 2003 09:26 PM

long block compared to short block
 
Ok, i was looking into a motor swap and i came upon a long block and a short block. I asked a couple of my friends and they just couldn't answer it. What is the difference, advantages and disadvantages? if any 1 could give me a site or could explain it to me that would be great. I searched but couldn't find much.

IN VTEC Jun 18, 2003 10:52 PM

Re: long block compared to short block (JONBLAZE55555)
 
long block is a complete motor, sans tranny

short block is a complete motor, sans anything from the head and above and tranny

sgT Jun 19, 2003 12:48 AM

Re: long block compared to short block (IN VTEC)
 
Longblock = block + head
shortblock = block

raene Jun 19, 2003 07:53 AM

Re: long block compared to short block (sgT)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sgT &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Longblock = block + head
shortblock = block</TD></TR></TABLE>

With each being complete? ie longblock is a complete block and a complete head (incl. distributor, alt, etc), shortblock is a complete block and bottom end incl. pistons, crank, etc?

mafioso102 Jun 19, 2003 09:32 AM

Re: long block compared to short block (raene)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by raene &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

With each being complete? ie longblock is a complete block and a complete head (incl. distributor, alt, etc), shortblock is a complete block and bottom end incl. pistons, crank, etc? </TD></TR></TABLE>


it depends on the seller. the only essential difference is the head. The rest (IM, dist, etc) will vary by seller

KRiS1 Jun 19, 2003 09:40 AM

Re: long block compared to short block (JONBLAZE55555)
 
Are ITR shortblocks still available from Acura?

Behan Jun 19, 2003 10:38 AM

Re: long block compared to short block (POS Hatchback)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by POS Hatchback &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Are ITR shortblocks still available from Acura?</TD></TR></TABLE>

i found one for you, this is they're home page. just follow it through and selct type r as model. then its listed under cylinder block/oil pan.

http://www.acuraautomotivepart...e.htm

raene Jun 19, 2003 10:47 AM

Re: long block compared to short block (93preludevtec)
 
Ahhh, but that doesn't include the crankshaft, rods, pistons, bearings, oilpan, etc... add on about another $2.5k for those https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...s/emsmileo.gif

JONBLAZE55555 Jun 19, 2003 09:37 PM

Re: long block compared to short block (raene)
 
well i went on http://www.hmotorsonline.com and all the long block motors they sell do not come with a trans. which is some thing i need. this is what comes with it - Motor
- Intake Manifold
- Exhaust Manifold
- Injectors
- Fuel Rail
- Throttle body
- Alternator
- Distributor

what else would i need to make this swap possible ?( other than the ecu?)

-by the way i have a d15 and i want to upgrade to a b16A(dohc vtec)

raene Jun 20, 2003 08:03 AM

Re: long block compared to short block (JONBLAZE55555)
 
You will need a b-series transmission. Any B-series transmission, but make sure you use the same style transmission as is already in your car. If your tranny is cable-actuated, then you need a cable b-series tranny. If you have a hydro, then you need a hydro b-series transmission.

HTH https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...es/emsmile.gif

JONBLAZE55555 Jun 20, 2003 05:19 PM

Re: long block compared to short block (raene)
 
what about a clutch??

StrangerWitCandy Jun 20, 2003 05:34 PM

Re: long block compared to short block (JONBLAZE55555)
 
youll need a clutch nomatter what you get... it may come with the old one, but they are almost always fukced up.

JONBLAZE55555 Jun 20, 2003 10:26 PM

Re: long block compared to short block (JONBLAZE55555)
 
great https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...s/emthdown.gif


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