NJcoupe

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by WHITFIELD-TUNED &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">s300= 2 much money IMO
<FONT COLOR="blue">IN CROME YOU CAN USE THE AIB OUTPUT to control nitrous</FONT>
again this is just my opinion because i tune both hondata and crome... as far as burning chips goes .. there is no need for that
<FONT COLOR="red">and in about two weeks i will be able to tune wireless....no more cables!!</FONT> </TD></TR></TABLE>

agreed, but then you need to convert your p28 to a p72, which isn't hard at all, if you do it yourself. I found new s300 units for $535 shipped. I don't think that is expensive at all comparde to K-Pro or the other products that hondata has to offer. I was just planning on using the VTEC output for nitrous in crome intill i get hondata. But the Vtec and IAB output doesn't have an RPM where it shuts off.

HiProfile

Neptune is sort of like a free engine block - its only worth the time/money if you don't have to travel several hours and devote a whole day to get it. Otherwise crome has everything you really need for a street car. If you really need a crapload of extra features, you might as well jump up to an AEM box. The biggest problem with Neptune is that it seems more like a hobby venture than a product/company. They don't follow any economic plan (IE controlling supply, but keeping fixed costs), don't want to grow at all, and have had their RTP stuff in quasi-devolement for over a year. A business owner with half a brain would understand the better option would have been to buy the design/production rights from the designer and get it finished & produced elsewhere, and pay for that buyout with an extra year of sales. Thats 100% possible as everyone knows theres at least a dozen cars on here with RTP 'test' boards. But I digress.


Crome = for anybody
Hondata = 'namebrand' people who can't read pgmfi.org
Neptune = for a 'weekend warrior'/hobby car ...if a tuner is in range

alterdcreations

after reading all of this i going to buy the s3oo hondata.
it seems like almost any tuner(dyno) can reprogram it for me and i will probely be easir for me to learn

rudebwoy

iTrader: (1)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HiProfile &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Neptune is sort of like a free engine block - its only worth the time/money if you don't have to travel several hours and devote a whole day to get it. </TD></TR></TABLE>

you mean that its like an expensive engine block that still requires a mechanic to finish the build, but the problem is you cant just take it a regular machine shop, you have to ship it back to japan to get rebuild.
in most people eyes s300 is also overprice, but it is user freindly so it pays off. crome I never got it to work, but I've heard a lot of success stories. s300

OBRJosh

S300 From me , Worth the $600 Bucks!!

NJcoupe

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by OBRJosh &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">S300 From me , Worth the $600 Bucks!!</TD></TR></TABLE>

$535

OBRJosh

I paid $600 including the chipping from ravermotorsports

JDM94EG28

hondata s300

civicsit

whats going on guys?

well i am running an s200 at this time but i am going to be switching over the s300 before a start speending to much money on the s200 for all the opions for it.

mike93eh2

ive found s300's for 520 shipped from af performance!

NJcoupe

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by civicsit &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">whats going on guys?

well i am running an s200 at this time but i am going to be switching over the s300 before a start speending to much money on the s200 for all the opions for it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Good Idea.

JDM94EG28

520'S A GOOD PRICE AND S300 IS SO EASYYY TO TUNE!

gsr_pimp88

s300

pane93civhb

I got my s300 in i just need to get it installed now..

Hybrid Don

There are a few cars in my area running Neptune, one my shop had a huge role in building. Both are above 550 whp. Personally I feel that an engine management system that can perform that degree of tuning and retain alot of the factory functions and programs is a worthy engine management.

To my understanding Neptune is on lockdown as far as tuners.

I have had good experiences with Chrome and Hondata as well.

I would prefer to use AEM EMS in most cases for high horsepower cars as there are a few functions that I really like in their program.

Neptune so far has shown excellent driveability in the 2 customer cars I have seen that are tuned with it. Again these are daily driven 600whp cars.

LsCivic18

Im Goin To Have To Go With s300. Very User Friendly

pane93civhb

Im trying to figure out who i should go to to install my chip for my s300 because i got the box and what not with the software but did not have the ecu pre chipped.

zman

Crome all the way. Forget paying $600+ for hondata when crome works just as well.
Just keep up with the newest release and plug-ins and you'll be fine.
The reason people have problems with crome isn't b/c of the software, its b/c of the user. CromePRO is super easy to use and to learn how to tune with. I've run some pretty high WHP daily driven cars on crome and they always run amazing.
CromePRO rocks!!!

2k.civic.si

crome pro
use it every day...i also tune hondata....both are great systems...crome is for much less $$$....why pay more $ for rom editing software....thats all hondata and crome are....they edit factory honda ecu code....so lets see...pay more for hondata to go in and change values at certain hex address' when crome does it for less???
hell i can make those changes with just a hex editor...takes longer...but hex editors are free

WHITFIELD-TUNED

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 2k.civic.si &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">crome pro
use it every day...i also tune hondata....both are great systems...crome is for much less $$$....why pay more $ for rom editing software....thats all hondata and crome are....they edit factory honda ecu code....so lets see...pay more for hondata to go in and change values at certain hex address' when crome does it for less???
hell i can make those changes with just a hex editor...takes longer...but hex editors are free</TD></TR></TABLE>

0mtber

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This is the 100th thread I have seen like this.

All of the systems work.
Use a romeditor/system which your tuner feels the best about using for your application.

Good luck with your choice.

Rhymenoceros

I &lt;3 my s300

dwilson

I know it wasnt in your poll, but my vote goes to AEM EMS. I am currently using crome now also, but with all the plugins and such you have to really keep track and up to date with the software. I have never had any issues with it, but got tired of loading plugins and such. I was in the same situation as you trying to decide what to go with next. I had previously used hondata on another car and was happy with it as well, but after shopping around I found that you can find a AEM EMS for about the same price as the S300. It was used but i ended up finding one for 700 shipped and that is for a true Standalone which should be the last EMS you ever need. Be patient and search you can find a deal out there no matter which unit you purchase.