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mhax Jan 20, 2012 02:02 PM

Exhaust material properties
 
I've been talking with someone about thermal conductivity of material in car exhaust system. If you compare the aluminium to the stainless steel, the aluminium has around 200 W/m.K and stainless steel is around 20 W/m.K.
I think the aluminium pipe will lose more heat to the surrouding, resulting in a decrease of internal temperature as opposed to the stainless steel...is this right?

grumblemarc Jan 20, 2012 02:18 PM

Re: Exhaust material properties
 
Internal temperature of what?

mhax Jan 20, 2012 02:20 PM

Re: Exhaust material properties
 

Originally Posted by grumblemarc (Post 46717000)
Internal temperature of what?

Temperature of the exhaust gas. From what i said, the exhaust gas velocity in aluminium pipe would be lower (because of a lower temperature) compared to a higher exhaust gas velocity in stainless steel pipe (because of the higher temperature). Is everything right?

ddd4114 Jan 21, 2012 06:17 AM

Re: Exhaust material properties
 
Yes, but it's not going to be a night and day difference.

mike703 Jan 22, 2012 07:19 PM

Re: Exhaust material properties
 
Also aluminum has 2 distinct advantages to steel. it weighs less and it will not rust. BUT it will crack before it bends and will need to be mig welded i believe. sorry if thats wrong but i call a mig a tig and a tig a mig all damn day long. Im sure theres a reason why we dont use aluminum though i just dont know why...

mike703 Jan 22, 2012 07:20 PM

Re: Exhaust material properties
 
i thought of it probably because it gets hot and aluminum becomes kind of maliable and brittle.

mhax Jan 23, 2012 04:20 AM

Re: Exhaust material properties
 

Originally Posted by mike703 (Post 46728297)
i thought of it probably because it gets hot and aluminum becomes kind of maliable and brittle.

Yeah but aluminium can dissipate heat way better than stainless steel, so stainless steel will get hotter. So i don't think the aluminium will get to the temperature where it gets maliable and brittle.

grumblemarc Jan 23, 2012 05:45 AM

Re: Exhaust material properties
 
I guess I have to ask, in the the real world, what difference does it make?

turbohatch96y7 Jan 23, 2012 09:48 AM

Re: Exhaust material properties
 
I think aluminum sounds like shit that's why its not used from the manufacture. And its exspensive.

hondamark35 Jan 23, 2012 04:48 PM

Re: Exhaust material properties
 

Originally Posted by mhax (Post 46729608)
Yeah but aluminium can dissipate heat way better than stainless steel, so stainless steel will get hotter. So i don't think the aluminium will get to the temperature where it gets maliable and brittle.

you don't want exhaust to dissipate heat. you want to get as much of that heat out and away from the underside of the car.

closer to the engine, the manifold.. could get hot enough to deform and likely blow out. Also aluminum doesn't rust but it does "oxidize." it can also be susceptible to some of the more corrosive components of exhaust, especially in the presence of moisture.

if you want to do better than stainless, Ti or Iconel. both high dollar but totally up to the task.

ddd4114 Jan 23, 2012 05:42 PM

Re: Exhaust material properties
 

Originally Posted by grumblemarc (Post 46729834)
I guess I have to ask, in the the real world, what difference does it make?

It has a measurable impact on baller status.


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