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voiceinurhead05 04-09-2007 10:04 AM

B21 Vtec?
 
I posted about this about on preludepower but all I got was some idiot who wanted my B21 cams for free...

Anyway... I have a '91 Prelude Si with a B21A1 in it. I would like to bolt a GSR head onto the B21 Block. Now I know this can be done, but all I need to know is how (necessary modifications, etc) How much work it is, and how much it would cost (rough estimate)

excivicboy96 04-09-2007 11:16 AM

Re: B21 Vtec? (voiceinurhead05)
 
I have heard that the early Prelude B-series were the red headed step childs and are not compatible with the more common B-series.

NJIN BUILDR 04-09-2007 05:33 PM

Re: B21 Vtec? (excivicboy96)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by excivicboy96 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> I have heard that the early Prelude B-series were the red headed step childs and are not compatible with the more common B-series.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yup. Other B heads are not a bolt on.They have weak rods and an unusual main girdle/cap setup.The scrap metal guy has brought a few around.They were seriously blown up.

charlee 04-09-2007 07:01 PM

b21a's are not related to any b series. i dont know why honda gave them the "B" series name but they are not the same.

PHDZINE 04-10-2007 09:55 AM

Re: (charlee)
 
Don't get the old Prelude B series engines mixed up with the B16-B17-B18A/B and B18C engines. They are totally different.

excivicboy96 04-10-2007 10:41 AM

Re: (PHDZINE)
 
I learned that from the book "Honda Engine Swaps" By Aaron Bonk.

voiceinurhead05 04-10-2007 10:46 AM

Re: (excivicboy96)
 
So Basicly the only head that will work is the stock head? https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...s/emthdown.gif

mmuller 04-10-2007 12:05 PM

Re: (voiceinurhead05)
 
yes

slomofo 04-10-2007 01:36 PM

I always wanted to experiment a P13 head on the B21A1. Find someone that has an H22 head laying around and see if it'll bolt on.

I wanted to try this because if you look at the JDM F22B, the H23A1, the B21A1, and the B20A5, they look exactly the same.

WhiteNess 04-10-2007 02:53 PM

Re: (slomofo)
 
It is possible to accomplish this head swap...some guy actually made a kit for it. He discontinued selling it because it seemed to be a lil too complex for the average person. I remeber his write up saying that you need to use a b16 head b/c of the manifold design, a gsr manifold will hit the firewall. Unless you used a gsr head and skunk 2 manifold. Anyways the head swap will cost you more than it would to just put an H22 swap in the car, so its kinda pointless. But go for it if you want a unique car...just don't rev it over 7500 or what ever the "blow the expletive up point" of that motor is.

And remeber, unlike an ls/vtec or b20/vtec setup you can't just swap over to vtec water and oil pumps, so you will prolly shorten the life of ur bottom end.


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