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You CANNOT ride slammed AND have a smooth ride!

 
Old 07-30-2009, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by PatrickGSR94 View Post
Ride like a Cadillac truck maybe? Come on man, the simple facts are that that sort of ride quality is NOT possible when riding slammed in a double-wishbone Honda.

Post some pics and specs (spring rates, etc) of your setup to prove me wrong.
Ok i could be really iggnorant but im going to be a nice guy, again
1st off u dont no me nor my car.. ( i sound like a scratched cd)
2nd i sed i have a 05 em2 ok, its obvious you dont know about cars becuase 05 civics dont have double wishbone setup they have Mcpherson setup, not tryin to be a dick but go do your research again!

if you are trying to flame get ur facts right before u TRY to!
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Old 07-30-2009, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by kristo View Post
If he's talking 'bout his EM2 it has front McPherson and dw in the rear.
Thank you sir at least someone knows about suspenion
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Old 07-30-2009, 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by creepass View Post
since i slammed my car, i now need to replace rf wheel bearing.. thanks slammed thread..
If you want to be slammed you cant cry about it,
"If you aint tucking, You aint ****ing"
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Old 07-30-2009, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by jdm em2 View Post
If you want to be slammed you cant cry about it,
"If you aint tucking, You aint ****ing"
OMG...you hardparkers are hardcore.
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Old 07-30-2009, 08:21 PM
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Default Re: You CANNOT ride slammed AND have a smooth ride!

Originally Posted by jdm em2 View Post
its obvious you dont know about cars
LMAO, You told that to the wrong person!

N E ways the reason he thought you had a double wishbone suspension is because most people on here have double wishbone cars so he made the assumption.

Second, I also agree with patrick in seconding the statement that your car does not and cannot ride like a luxury car while being slammed! In order to accomplish this your car would have not only been as smooth as when you got the car BUT ALSO have got significantly smoother!

Even look at something like an M3, it is considered a smooth driving car but since it the suspension is that of a sports car it is nowhere as near as smooth as lets say a 7 series!
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Old 07-30-2009, 08:28 PM
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jesus...bunch of crap in here.....
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Default Re: You CANNOT ride slammed AND have a smooth ride!

From what I can tell Patrick knows quite abit about cars and suspension being one of his stronger fields of expertise.I also agree with xd69 our hondas ride quality to start with isnt great and it gets dramatically worse with aftermarket suspension and when the word slammed gets tossed in you might as well toss suspension travel along with quality out the window.I think people are willing to give up the enjoyment of a smooth ride and the ability to drive their cars effortlessly like a normal car for the sake of looks these days.
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Old 07-30-2009, 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by jdm em2 View Post
What do you mean you get what u pay for goes towards an education too?
hehe.
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Old 08-02-2009, 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by xd69 View Post
LMAO, You told that to the wrong person!

N E ways the reason he thought you had a double wishbone suspension is because most people on here have double wishbone cars so he made the assumption.

Second, I also agree with patrick in seconding the statement that your car does not and cannot ride like a luxury car while being slammed! In order to accomplish this your car would have not only been as smooth as when you got the car BUT ALSO have got significantly smoother!

Even look at something like an M3, it is considered a smooth driving car but since it the suspension is that of a sports car it is nowhere as near as smooth as lets say a 7 series!
Well, i geuss im not most people.. its obvious he assumed i had double wishbone setup. you no what u get when u assume u make a *** out of you and me, Also thats thing u guys are mistaken my car drives 10x better with this setup on now then when it was stock, u guys dont have to believe me its my car, i drive it everyday, ive drove in many of cars that had bad suspenion setup and also really bad ones, but for non the less! not trying to argue just trying to prove how my car rides!
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Old 08-05-2009, 11:29 AM
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What does bottoming out suppose to mean?

I just slammed my car last night. it's very low on the front, tucking tire SICK. the rears are tucking too but not as low.

Anyone know if i roll my fenders, will i stop rubbing?
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Default Re: You CANNOT ride slammed AND have a smooth ride!

Originally Posted by *****yx90 View Post
What does bottoming out mean?
When your shock rod hits the bottom of the shock body, reaches maximum resistance.

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I just slammed my car last night. it's very low in the front, tucking tire SICK. The rears are tucking too but not as low.
You'll be SICK of bouncing around in your seat after a while.

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Anyone know if i roll my fenders, will i stop rubbing?
Maybe...but there are many variables to take into consideration first. What size wheel, width, offset, tire size, fender liners and ultimately how low you have the car.
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Old 08-05-2009, 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by gabebauman View Post
You'll be SICK of replacing inner tie rods and misc bushings.

also true. lol.
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Default Re: You CANNOT ride slammed AND have a smooth ride!

Originally Posted by jdm em2 View Post

2nd the extended shock towers....
Originally Posted by PatrickGSR94 View Post
Ride like a Cadillac truck maybe? Come on man, the simple facts are that that sort of ride quality is NOT possible when riding slammed in a double-wishbone Honda.

Post some pics and specs (spring rates, etc) of your setup to prove me wrong.
em2,Just curious why your still BS'n and not posting pictures??? Seems like if you wanted to make any valid point at all you would respond with what the man ask for? Not taking sides, just curious...
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Old 08-18-2009, 10:54 AM
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extended top hat

Help a lot to smooth the ride, when you are slammed ...
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Old 08-19-2009, 09:29 AM
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Default Re: You CANNOT ride slammed AND have a smooth ride!

My ride is slammed and for most part of it, it does feel like a harsh crappy ride compared to my Caddy but I am lovin it anyways! You gotta pay to play...
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Old 08-24-2009, 08:48 PM
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i got rsr race srpings on my db7 right now rides pretty decent the fact that im on stock shocks ....i feel everyones pain. the roads out here in the bay area suck. need to change my suspension fast. anyone got some illuminas or yellow fs?
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Originally Posted by DailyDumpedEj6 View Post
true but it definetly doesnt ride as shitty as the Koni/GC set-up everyone raves about... i rode dumped on it for over a year and it was nice but the silks are 10x better.. of course nowhere near stock, but thats a good thing..

BOT: OP is correct, you cannot have a slammed and smooth ride.. smooth= cadi ... we drive hondas.....
I know I'm beating an older dying horse, but what tires were/are you running?

Tires always seem to be the under estimated factor when you're considering ride quality. My mom has an EM2 on stock suspension with 205/40/17, and the ride isn't exactly smooth. (I know its strut up front)

A friend of mine has an S10 on air with 225/35/20 up front and 255/40/22 in the rear.. and it rides like hell no matter what height he sits at. (He rolls Slam Specialties Bags, a KP six link out back, Extended control arms up front and a notched frame for the tie rods)

I run 195/55/15 upfront and 205/55/15 out back, with GC's and stock shocks in front, and GC/Koni Yellows outback and almost everyone who rides in the car for the first time is surprised of the ride quality.. Still not stock, but for tucking tire.. not bad..
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all i know is i got some cheap *** coilovers and that **** is hella bouncy
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define smooth. I have progress coilovers on them. 10kg/mm front and 6kg/mm rear i believe. i think the ride is smooth. of course not many other people that's ridden me agree with this.
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im more into looks and performance in my accord....97 auto lx( ive always liked function>form, i jusrt dont see the accord as that)......im on stock suspension right now but i plan on doing dropzone coilovers with kyb gr2 shocks.....im not gonna slam it but be tire limit MAYBE a lil lower...what you guys think?? its more looks than performance...
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Hey, im new to honda-tech and also new to cars. I recently bought a 99 integra and it came with rota d2 and coilovers. Itss lowered but i wanna get it slammed or atleast tucked in half a tire. I was wondering how i could slam it. Is 16" rims too big to have it tucked in or should i get 15" rims. Also what are the steps i need to do to slam it. I was told by someone that they need to take my inside mudguards off and grind my fenders to make it smooth. Do i have to do all that and if itake the mudguards off, wont water go inside the hood and engine? Thanks
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Originally Posted by Bro. Darkness View Post
soooooo true!!!! roads in KS, AK, and over here in OK are BEYOND F*CKED UP!!! trust me shane, you know my car isnt even slammed and its taking a beating out here man. i would almost rather pay for a cab everywhere i go than to ride on these roads. btw hows ur civic doin?
lmao, thought chicago road was bad...
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when slamming your car is it nessary to put lowering control arms and front and back camber kit ot sway bars
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Old 10-01-2009, 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by MrScrogg View Post
Well in SC you can run slammed. The roads are oh so great compared to where I reside now. KS. The roads are booty. They have the expansion joints to let the sections expand and contract depending on weather, and it's just a rough ride all together.

But, Yes, Pat, your right. People need to open their eyes and smell the tulips. There is a great compromise when it comes to suspension setups.
Im glad you said that, i live in sc and i want to lower my civic but i didn't kno if it was a good idea....
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Old 10-06-2009, 12:49 PM
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You can ride slammed and have a smooth ride. My car is proof. 98 Integra on ground control coilovers kyb agx shocks and oem front upper control arms. 3 inches from my jack points. Rides only a little stiffer then stock. Handles great and rarely scrapes.
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