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You CANNOT ride slammed AND have a smooth ride!

 
Old 07-15-2009, 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Daboyu978 View Post
who slams their car to drive like stockk ? i would slam my car with good suspension good bushing for better and tighter turns. if you want your car to ride like stock then leave it stock hahahaha. DRIVING DAILY SLAMMED ! dds
If you're slammed usually your car is going to handle worse...
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Originally Posted by Tokyosmash! View Post
If you're slammed usually your car is going to handle worse...
I agree.
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Old 07-16-2009, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Tokyosmash! View Post
If you're slammed usually your car is going to handle worse...
stock shocks and springs have that floaty feelings, and on turns feels like the car gonna tip over for some reason.
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Old 07-16-2009, 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Daboyu978 View Post
stock shocks and springs have that floaty feelings, and on turns feels like the car gonna tip over for some reason.
But when you have a slammed car your suspension travel is limited, hence the car can only go so far before the suspension bottoms out which could be a disaster in a corner, not to mention, you need to leave space between tire and fender/quarters for the same reason.
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Old 07-17-2009, 03:28 AM
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Default Re: You CANNOT ride slammed AND have a smooth ride!

When suspension bottoms out, spring rate basically goes to infinite, which can cause things like tires suddenly losing traction while cornering. That's why it's so important to keep the suspension off of the bump stops and the UCA's from hitting the shock tower.
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Old 07-17-2009, 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by PatrickGSR94 View Post
Let's try to stay on topic. I made this thread to answer the many threads I've seen in here where people specifically ask about slamming their ride but retaining stock or near-stock ride quality.

That's what I'm trying to dispel with this topic.
then change the thread title to be reflective of the topic you want it to stick to.

"re: you cannot ride slammed and retain stock ride characteristics"

although, as i have done on several cars, you can. it just takes a lot of time and patience (and usually a saw and a welder) to do it.
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Old 07-20-2009, 04:38 PM
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Default Re: You CANNOT ride slammed AND have a smooth ride!

I guess the title should be 'you cannot get a good ride with our sponsors products'.

I can drop 3" front and 4" rear with stock shock and stock springs and still have full stock travel. No suspension bottoming.

I realize there are alot of brainwashed people here but instead of it can't be done, discuss how it is done and everyone can make up their mind if the work is worth the effort
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Old 07-20-2009, 07:18 PM
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Truth!
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Old 07-21-2009, 03:46 AM
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Default Re: You CANNOT ride slammed AND have a smooth ride!

Originally Posted by luciferi View Post
I guess the title should be 'you cannot get a good ride with our sponsors products'.

I can drop 3" front and 4" rear with stock shock and stock springs and still have full stock travel. No suspension bottoming.

I realize there are alot of brainwashed people here but instead of it can't be done, discuss how it is done and everyone can make up their mind if the work is worth the effort
LOL...sounds like a lot of custom work. I'd have to see pix of this setup to believe it.
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Originally Posted by PatrickGSR94 View Post
I assume you mean the fact that camber kits are NOT required.
please educate me on what you mean by "camber kits are not required" I thought they were?
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Old 07-24-2009, 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by patrickr2018 View Post
please educate me on what you mean by "camber kits are not required" I thought they were?
http://heeltoeauto.com/httech/YaBB.pl?num=1162587420
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wow, thank God I read that thread. I was about to buy a camber adjustable pillow ball mount to replace my anchor bolt camber kit. I guess I can put the stock anchor bolts back on and just get it re-alinged. sounds good to me. I always have trouble with my camber kit.
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Old 07-24-2009, 02:13 PM
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Well IMO i didnt buy 1,000$ progress coilovers so i can drop it 2", mine is slammed and i have custom rear strut towers and thats it, i drove in my buddies car (same car as me) and it rides rough believe it or not. people always stop me and say how can u drive it so low, i said it drives litteraly like a cadi, and other people say well u have to stop over realroad crossings, Well this is the funnny part i got the worst realroad in my town and i acutally have a video on my fone goin 85mph over it and i didnt feel a thing nor my car bounce. so to sum it up never the less you get what u pay for!
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Rail Roads. You get what you pay for goes towards an education too.

my function forms ride fine... and i'm slammed. I expected it to be bumpy.
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awesome thread... I was wondering if someone one here can educate me some? I have a TL and right now its lowered about 3.5 in front and 3.25 in rear since the car is so heavy it bottoms out a lot, I was wondering if upgrading my suspension to something like K-Sport, D2, Function and Form's, would have any affect in the car bottoming out so easy...? Does anyone on here have any experience with those suspension set-ups's? i hear a lot of good and bad things about every damn suspension set-up out there! comments are welcome!
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Default Re: You CANNOT ride slammed AND have a smooth ride!

Originally Posted by psychoboy View Post
then change the thread title to be reflective of the topic you want it to stick to.

"re: you cannot ride slammed and retain stock ride characteristics"

although, as i have done on several cars, you can. it just takes a lot of time and patience (and usually a saw and a welder) to do it.
I have a CRX with an H22A that I recently swaped, I'm on coilovers, I dont mind the hard suspension of the stif springs, but what I mind is bottoming out with the extra weight of the new engine. I have a saw and a welder. Do you have any picutres of any CRX front suspension modified with saw and welder so it doesent bottom?

Thanks
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Originally Posted by vikingo3 View Post
I dont mind the hard suspension I have a saw and a welder. Do you have any picutres of any modified with saw and welder

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This is gunna be good!
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Old 07-29-2009, 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by vikingo3 View Post
I have a CRX with an H22A that I recently swaped, I'm on coilovers, I dont mind the hard suspension of the stif springs, but what I mind is bottoming out with the extra weight of the new engine. I have a saw and a welder. Do you have any picutres of any CRX front suspension modified with saw and welder so it doesent bottom?

Thanks
Extended top hats u wont bottom out!
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Old 07-29-2009, 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by ShinsenTuner View Post
Rail Roads. You get what you pay for goes towards an education too.

my function forms ride fine... and i'm slammed. I expected it to be bumpy.
What do you mean you get what u pay for goes towards an education too?
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Originally Posted by jdm em2 View Post
Well IMO i didnt buy 1,000$ progress coilovers so i can drop it 2", mine is slammed and i have custom rear strut towers and thats it, i drove in my buddies car (same car as me) and it rides rough believe it or not. people always stop me and say how can u drive it so low, i said it drives litteraly like a cadi, and other people say well u have to stop over realroad crossings, Well this is the funnny part i got the worst realroad in my town and i acutally have a video on my fone goin 85mph over it and i didnt feel a thing nor my car bounce. so to sum it up never the less you get what u pay for!
LOL that's funny. Your car does not "ride like a cadi"... not on coilovers it doesn't.

Why do you need extended rear shock towers? The rear has way more room than the front.
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Originally Posted by PatrickGSR94 View Post
LOL that's funny. Your car does not "ride like a cadi"... not on coilovers it doesn't.

Why do you need extended rear shock towers? The rear has way more room than the front.
LMAO!! im sorry i cant stop laughin, you are very funny how can you tell me my car doesnt drive good,
1st of all you dont no me at all nor my car.
2nd the extended shock towers are because my back used to bouce bad because im really low and a old freind of mind made then so it doesn't do it now!

But thanks for trying to flame!
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Ride like a Cadillac truck maybe? Come on man, the simple facts are that that sort of ride quality is NOT possible when riding slammed in a double-wishbone Honda.

Post some pics and specs (spring rates, etc) of your setup to prove me wrong.
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If he's talking 'bout his EM2 it has front McPherson and dw in the rear.
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since i slammed my car, i now need to replace rf wheel bearing.. thanks slammed thread..
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since i slammed my car, i now need to replace rf wheel bearing.. thanks slammed thread..
LOL
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