What are your Ground Control Spring rates ?
03-09-2007, 12:51 PM
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Re: What are your Ground Control Spring rates ? (redDAinteg)
what is the difference with having a higher rate in front or having a higher rate in the rear ? what are the pros and cons to both ?
03-09-2007, 01:35 PM
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Re: What are your Ground Control Spring rates ? (Rob.)
Yeah, my rate in the rear isn't higher....550f/500r. But I do get a bit of oversteer...hmmm, well I guess if I really jerk the wheel into a turn it will happen.
Handles okay. I guess I wanted more than I could ask for. I guess the only thing that really bothers me is the body roll. I hope a rear sway bar either 22mm/23mm will fix that.
I'm riding on 14"steelies with 195/60 tires with about a 1 finger gap or so in front, and about a 2 finger gap or just a bit more in the rear. Looking to drop the rear a bit more. This is in a DC4
Handles okay. I guess I wanted more than I could ask for. I guess the only thing that really bothers me is the body roll. I hope a rear sway bar either 22mm/23mm will fix that.
I'm riding on 14"steelies with 195/60 tires with about a 1 finger gap or so in front, and about a 2 finger gap or just a bit more in the rear. Looking to drop the rear a bit more. This is in a DC4
03-09-2007, 04:54 PM
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Re: What are your Ground Control Spring rates ? (redDAinteg)
400F and 450R (8") with koni yellow/all tophats, sleeves, perches, isolators and bumpstops. This is for a 97 Prelude SH and they are getting shipped next week so I can't wait to install!
03-12-2007, 01:19 PM
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Re: What are your Ground Control Spring rates ? (redDAinteg)
Here is one of the boxes my springs came in... this is going to be installed on the front (just as soon as I can secure a different vehicle for daily driving).
03-12-2007, 01:50 PM
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Re: What are your Ground Control Spring rates ? (Tornadom)
whats a good track/street rate? sees track but also daily driven, my car just squats too damn much, need something thats pretty stiff, but still ok for daily, plus would have the koni yellows for damping adjustablilty for the rear
03-12-2007, 02:08 PM
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Re: What are your Ground Control Spring rates ? (Dual Cam Racing)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dual Cam Racing »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">whats a good track/street rate? sees track but also daily driven, my car just squats too damn much, need something thats pretty stiff, but still ok for daily, plus would have the koni yellows for damping adjustablilty for the rear</TD></TR></TABLE>
There is no such thing. You have race rates, or street rates. If you want to do both you have to be somewhere in between.
"Jack of all trades, but master of none."
There is no such thing. You have race rates, or street rates. If you want to do both you have to be somewhere in between.
"Jack of all trades, but master of none."
03-12-2007, 05:58 PM
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Re: What are your Ground Control Spring rates ? (Dual Cam Racing)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dual Cam Racing »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">whats a good track/street rate? sees track but also daily driven, my car just squats too damn much, need something thats pretty stiff, but still ok for daily, plus would have the koni yellows for damping adjustablilty for the rear</TD></TR></TABLE>
Apparently mine are good for both....street and autox so they are rates somewhere in the middle. I just hope its not too stiff for daily driving. We'll see when I do the install.
If this thread is still alive after I install then I will let you know.
Apparently mine are good for both....street and autox so they are rates somewhere in the middle. I just hope its not too stiff for daily driving. We'll see when I do the install.
If this thread is still alive after I install then I will let you know.
03-12-2007, 06:19 PM
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Re: What are your Ground Control Spring rates ? (Dual Cam Racing)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dual Cam Racing »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">whats a good track/street rate? sees track but also daily driven, my car just squats too damn much, need something thats pretty stiff, but still ok for daily, plus would have the koni yellows for damping adjustablilty for the rear</TD></TR></TABLE>
If you're worried about squat, did you mean to ask about strip / street rates, and not track / street rates? Because the word "track" generally is used to refer to a road course style track, and "strip" for the drag strip.
I only bring this up, becaues the rates you'd want to run would be radically different between the two.
If you're worried about squat, did you mean to ask about strip / street rates, and not track / street rates? Because the word "track" generally is used to refer to a road course style track, and "strip" for the drag strip.
I only bring this up, becaues the rates you'd want to run would be radically different between the two.
03-12-2007, 06:31 PM
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Re: What are your Ground Control Spring rates ? (Rob.)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Rob. »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Higher rate in rear causes oversteer (turning quicker)</TD></TR></TABLE>
thats not completely true and can't be put that simply, you don't turn quicker
thats not completely true and can't be put that simply, you don't turn quicker
03-12-2007, 11:03 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SIC_jdm_da9 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i got ground controls on my da with blues and its soo bouncy... my car just flys every where lol but its because im hella low so yeahh </TD></TR></TABLE>
And because you're riding on blues.
</TD></TR></TABLE>And because you're riding on blues.
03-12-2007, 11:53 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SIC_jdm_da9 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i got ground controls on my da with blues and its soo bouncy... my car just flys every where lol but its because im hella low so yeahh </TD></TR></TABLE>
get some koni's and its a totally different ball park. That is like comparing apples and oranges(koni's vs. OEM style shocks)
get some koni's and its a totally different ball park. That is like comparing apples and oranges(koni's vs. OEM style shocks)
03-13-2007, 05:51 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SIC_jdm_da9 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeahh i will be getting something better later like some ksport or something haha just got no money right now :: 
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Why don't you just upgrade to koni yellow's?
You already have the ground control's.
</TD></TR></TABLE>Why don't you just upgrade to koni yellow's?
You already have the ground control's.
03-13-2007, 07:03 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SIC_jdm_da9 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeahh i will be getting something better later like some ksport or something haha just got no money right now :: </TD></TR></TABLE>
This is why this market is starting to drive me crazy.
</TD></TR></TABLE>This is why this market is starting to drive me crazy.
03-13-2007, 07:06 AM
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This is why this market is starting to drive me crazy.</TD></TR></TABLE>
You guys just need to quit concentrating on material properties and stuff like that and figure out how to make your stuff shinier lol.
This is why this market is starting to drive me crazy.</TD></TR></TABLE>
You guys just need to quit concentrating on material properties and stuff like that and figure out how to make your stuff shinier lol.
03-13-2007, 07:46 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vtecvoodoo »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
This is why this market is starting to drive me crazy.</TD></TR></TABLE>
If you wanna-be spring manufacturers ever want to sell any springs, you gonna have to start offering them in many different anodized colors with chrome stripes & ****. It's probably best to drop the quality control too otherwise your never gonna turn a profit. Oh yea...don't forget to put "JDM" somewhere on the box....
LOL!
This is why this market is starting to drive me crazy.</TD></TR></TABLE>
If you wanna-be spring manufacturers ever want to sell any springs, you gonna have to start offering them in many different anodized colors with chrome stripes & ****. It's probably best to drop the quality control too otherwise your never gonna turn a profit. Oh yea...don't forget to put "JDM" somewhere on the box....
LOL!
03-13-2007, 07:55 AM
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Re: (SIC_jdm_da9)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SIC_jdm_da9 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeahh i will be getting something better later like some ksport or something haha just got no money right now :: </TD></TR></TABLE><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vtecvoodoo »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
This is why this market is starting to drive me crazy.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I agree, those new companies popping up are not the "better" choice. I used to sell those brands as well in the past, but I pulled that from our product line. After repeated calls from many people, not my customers actually, about leaking shocks, bad fitment, etc. I refuse to carry those brands anymore.
i'm sticking to Koni, Ground Control, Eibach, etc. The proven brands for many years. My take on it is, if there is any repair or any warranty required. The consumer has alot of options to go to for repair or warranty of the product. Its just piece of mind that you know you have a product that a company can back up and take care of you if something happens.
</TD></TR></TABLE><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vtecvoodoo »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">This is why this market is starting to drive me crazy.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I agree, those new companies popping up are not the "better" choice. I used to sell those brands as well in the past, but I pulled that from our product line. After repeated calls from many people, not my customers actually, about leaking shocks, bad fitment, etc. I refuse to carry those brands anymore.
i'm sticking to Koni, Ground Control, Eibach, etc. The proven brands for many years. My take on it is, if there is any repair or any warranty required. The consumer has alot of options to go to for repair or warranty of the product. Its just piece of mind that you know you have a product that a company can back up and take care of you if something happens.
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03-13-2007, 08:19 AM
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Re: (FalkenSiR)
400f 350r on ots koni's with 23mm sway. in the process of installing it all right now. should be done today. can't get in for an alignment till friday 
i hope i'm happy with how it handles...
i hope i'm happy with how it handles...
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Anybody have any good recommendations on sways?
Besides the obvious 22/23mm ITR sway bar?
Also mounting kit included?
Is a subframe brace needed for the subframe? I'm running in a dc4 with 550f/500r gc w/ ots konis.
I heard it was more needed for EG/EF chassis.
Besides the obvious 22/23mm ITR sway bar?
Also mounting kit included?
Is a subframe brace needed for the subframe? I'm running in a dc4 with 550f/500r gc w/ ots konis.
I heard it was more needed for EG/EF chassis.