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area522010 07-12-2010 12:52 PM

BEST COILOVER SLEEVE ON THE MARKET
 
Just wanted to see what you guys are using or what company you think makes the coil over sleeve on the market. i personally ran sk2 sleeves for 2 season with blues ran perfectly fine. just grabbed a set of megans for a wholesale price ima try those out on my street car. but wanted to see what you guys suggest. and please i know a complete coilover works the best but im asking a pacific question.

jdmb18hatch 07-12-2010 01:07 PM

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i like my GC's

crxsleeper210 07-12-2010 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by jdmb18hatch (Post 43003068)
i like my GC's

WHAT HE SAID ^^^^^^^
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TunerN00b 07-12-2010 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by jdmb18hatch (Post 43003068)
i like my GC's

I love my GCs as well.

But, if I had known that Koni sells sleeves for the Sport (Yellow) shocks, I would have simply bought those instead.

98civdx 07-12-2010 02:42 PM

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I agree with above, Ground control coilovers are the best slip ons.

kristo 07-12-2010 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by 98civdx (Post 43003896)
I agree with above, Ground control coilovers are the best slip ons.

Very likely true, but in the end any decent fabricated sleeve will do - with our without specific designs (like the GC Koni sleeve).


Originally Posted by TunerN00b (Post 43003342)
I love my GCs as well.

But, if I had known that Koni sells sleeves for the Sport (Yellow) shocks, I would have simply bought those instead.

The Koni sleeves have the benefit of being Koni-specific - like the GC Koni sleeves, but you need a (Koni supplied) adapter to use 2.5" springs, and the locking method is different (better/worse?) from GC.

The Koni-sleeves are also not only specific for Yellows, they have sleeve-fitments for all their dampers.

Extra benefit of GC (in case of Yellows) could be considered to be that you get from them a one-brand package: sleeves + extended top hats (+ springs) and an arguably good looking-one.

builthatch 07-12-2010 04:46 PM

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custom ground controls per the application with koni dampers :thumbup:

98civdx 07-12-2010 05:16 PM

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Kristo- very true, but gc sleeves look better then other sleeves ;)

kristo 07-12-2010 05:42 PM

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My post^^ amended accordingly :)

TunerN00b 07-12-2010 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by kristo (Post 43005049)
The Koni sleeves have the benefit of being Koni-specific - like the GC Koni sleeves, but you need a (Koni supplied) adapter to use 2.5" springs, and the locking method is different (better/worse?) from GC.

Considering that my knuckles rub against my GC springs on occasion, running a smaller diameter (2.25") spring might be a good thing. And ERS (what GC uses anyway) happen to come in both 2.25" and 2.5".

bsmith100 07-12-2010 07:37 PM

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These were the only coil-overs I could find on the Koni website.
http://www.koni-na.com/1150.cfm

Are these the slip-on sleeves you were talking about? To me they seem like these have threaded shock bodies, not the slip on type. Where can you get the sleeves?

98civdx 07-12-2010 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by kristo (Post 43005588)
My post^^ amended accordingly :)

haha :thumbup:

bsmith100, these are what we are talking about
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/GROUN...Q5fAccessories

bsmith100 07-12-2010 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 98civdx (Post 43006897)
these are what we are talking about
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/GROUN...Q5fAccessories

Oh I know about Ground Control coil-overs. However earlier in the thread somebody mentioned that Koni sells their own sleeves for their shocks.

bsmith100 07-12-2010 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by kristo (Post 43005049)
The Koni sleeves have the benefit of being Koni-specific - like the GC Koni sleeves, but you need a (Koni supplied) adapter to use 2.5" springs, and the locking method is different (better/worse?) from GC.

The Koni-sleeves are also not only specific for Yellows, they have sleeve-fitments for all their dampers.

These Koni built sleeves are the ones I was asking about. I have never seen them. Apparently they take 2.25 inch diameter springs.

98civdx 07-12-2010 07:55 PM

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ohhh, go to weaksuace or thmotorsports, they do sell koni specif gc sleeves.

Koni doesnt make them, its just a option that ground control has.

bsmith100 07-12-2010 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by 98civdx (Post 43006995)
ohhh, go to weaksuace or thmotorsports, they do sell koni specif gc sleeves.

Koni doesnt make them, its just a option that ground control has.

I don't think that is what they were talking about. In their posts they refer to the Ground Control sleeves specifically for Koni that take the 2.5 inch springs, and then they talk about the Koni built sleeves that take smaller diameter springs and require a special adapter from Koni so they can use 2.5 inch springs.


Originally Posted by kristo (Post 43005049)
The Koni sleeves have the benefit of being Koni-specific - like the GC Koni sleeves, but you need a (Koni supplied) adapter to use 2.5" springs, and the locking method is different (better/worse?) from GC.


Originally Posted by TunerN00b (Post 43003342)
I love my GCs as well.

But, if I had known that Koni sells sleeves for the Sport (Yellow) shocks, I would have simply bought those instead.


98civdx 07-12-2010 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by bsmith100 (Post 43007116)
I don't think that is what they were talking about. In their posts they refer to the Ground Control sleeves specifically for Koni that take the 2.5 inch springs, and then they talk about the Koni built sleeves that take smaller diameter springs and require a special adapter from Koni so they can use 2.5 inch springs.

Im confused. GC used 2.5in springs, but you can also get them in 2.25in if you want.

Ground control makes sleeves for many different types of shocks, not just koni..
There are adapters to use non koni sleeves on koni shocks, this is becasue of the cir clip.
The koni spec gc grabs the cir clip.


In there post they may be talking about the koni cir clip, if you dont have koni spec seleves you will need an adapter for the sleeve to sit on top of and grab the cir clip.
I have never heard of koni making sleeves, only ground control making them for koni.
But your post is a little confusing sorry.

bsmith100 07-12-2010 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by 98civdx (Post 43007313)
I have never heard of koni making sleeves, only ground control making them for koni.

Yeah, I had not heard about Koni selling their own sleeves either. Although some of the posts seem to suggest that they do. Or at least that was the impression I got.

98civdx 07-12-2010 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by bsmith100 (Post 43008144)
Yeah, I had not heard about Koni selling their own sleeves either. Although some of the posts seem to suggest that they do. Or at least that was the impression I got.

they may, i have no clue. Without acutally giving koni na a call.
I belive they sell there own adapters to run a skunk2 or something sleeve on there shocks, but again, im not 100% positive.

kristo 07-13-2010 03:27 AM

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TunerN00b and myself were indeed also talking about sleeves made by Koni.

See their catalogue here and relevant webpage here.


http://www.kingmotorsports.com/image...medium/373.jpg

http://farnorthracing.com/newimages/...Webgraphic.jpg

area522010 07-13-2010 05:31 AM

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no love for megan's?

phunhaus 07-13-2010 06:17 AM

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No.

98civdx 07-13-2010 10:16 AM

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Looks like the gc ones, well just black

TunerN00b 07-13-2010 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by 98civdx (Post 43012285)
Looks like the gc ones, well just black

Except that the upper shock mounts pictured here (not sure if they are available for all models, as I didn't really pay much attention to sleeves / kits after I already purchased my GCs and GC extended upper mounts):
http://farnorthracing.com/newimages/...Webgraphic.jpg
will radically reduce side bending loads on the shock shaft, since they keep the spring parallel to the shock (unlike stock upper shock mounts).

But then again, those are also shown with helper springs, which most people don't bother to run.

98civdx 07-13-2010 11:00 AM

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is there any advantages over just a koni/gc setup?
Other then the top hat, I haven't ever seen a top hat like that.


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