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Old 01-27-2005, 09:15 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by azian21485 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i wonder why omnipower's graphs never get shown </TD></TR></TABLE>

Sombody in the "DA Omni" thread in this forum said they were sending their brand new ones to Eibach for dyno testing of the shocks & springs. It's only a matter of time now...
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Old 01-27-2005, 02:39 PM
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does it bother you guys that koni yellows have absolutely no compression adjustment?
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Old 01-27-2005, 02:59 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tyson &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">does it bother you guys that koni yellows have absolutely no compression adjustment?</TD></TR></TABLE>

for $500/set, not at all.
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Old 01-27-2005, 03:03 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tyson &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">does it bother you guys that koni yellows have absolutely no compression adjustment?</TD></TR></TABLE>

neither does any shock in that price range. if i wanted compresson adjustment i would have goten the 3011's or AD's. but those are two different ball games
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Old 01-27-2005, 05:20 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tyson &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">does it bother you guys that koni yellows have absolutely no compression adjustment?</TD></TR></TABLE>

You shouldnt need one - compression controls the unsprung weight, and once its set you shouldnt have to worry about it. "set it, and forget it!"
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Old 01-27-2005, 07:15 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 94eg! &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Sombody in the "DA Omni" thread in this forum said they were sending their brand new ones to Eibach for dyno testing of the shocks & springs. It's only a matter of time now...</TD></TR></TABLE>

cool..very interested in seeing them

second request: anyone able to dig up a tein ss dyno?
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Old 01-27-2005, 07:27 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by azian21485 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
second request: anyone able to dig up a tein ss dyno?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I can't say for sure, but it should be something like this: SUCK.
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Old 01-27-2005, 09:31 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sscguy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I can't say for sure, but it should be something like this: SUCK.</TD></TR></TABLE>

lol i like to have the graph to show a few people
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Old 01-28-2005, 12:59 AM
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Would it be worth it to Dyno test my KW V2?

I am thinking about selling them, and curious what state they're in... and/or getting them revalved and see what they're supposed to be like. I read that Koni-na did revalving of other brands, anyone actually done this? what's the price on that usually?
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Old 01-28-2005, 03:53 AM
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I'd be interested in seeing it just to see how the Euro stuff compares (KW is primarily for VW/BMWs, right?).
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is it just me or has everyone forgotten about the koni specials?? i'd really like to see how they compare to the yellows, especially at full firm.
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Old 01-28-2005, 04:32 AM
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Are the Koni Specials the SPPS or whatever? If they are, check out the bottom of page 2.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sscguy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Are the Koni Specials the SPPS or whatever? If they are, check out the bottom of page 2.</TD></TR></TABLE>

nope...that's SPSS, or Sport Showroom Stock, valved koni sports. i'm talking about the koni special or koni reds as most people refer to them as.
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Old 01-28-2005, 05:02 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slammed_93_hatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

neither does any shock in that price range. if i wanted compresson adjustment i would have goten the 3011's or AD's. but those are two different ball games</TD></TR></TABLE>

umm 3011s = yummy!!!!
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Old 01-28-2005, 06:29 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sscguy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I can't say for sure, but it should be something like this: SUCK.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Any particular reason you say that? They shouldn't be much different from the RA dynos already posted, except I would expect lower damping forces.
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Old 01-28-2005, 06:35 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Silverpike &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Any particular reason you say that? They shouldn't be much different from the RA dynos already posted, except I would expect lower damping forces.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Most of the JDM coil-overs have little to no adjustment range. Besides, I would hope they are very different. Aren't the RA's like twice the price of the SS?
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Keep in mind that we don't know which side is compression and which side is rebound unless specifically stated. I've seen graphs with rebound on bottom and bump on top, and vice versa....

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rochesterricer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Most of the JDM coil-overs have little to no adjustment range. Besides, I would hope they are very different. Aren't the RA's like twice the price of the SS?</TD></TR></TABLE>
My understanding that the only major difference between Tein coilovers was the base damping rate. Construction I believe is similar. RAs should have higher damping forces than the SS, just because it is meant for higher spring rate applications.

Tein can get away with charging more, 'cause "stiff coilovers are mad tizzite yo!"

I know there are a few people (who seem well-informed) who bag on the Teins often (SS and HA specifically). However, I haven't heard any fact-based information on why this is. If there is some technical information I don't know about, I would be really interested in hearing. I would be especially interested if the DA coilovers dyno more favorably than the Teins.
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Old 01-28-2005, 10:43 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tyson &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">does it bother you guys that koni yellows have absolutely no compression adjustment?</TD></TR></TABLE>

it seems that the only ones in this thread that do are the zeal s6
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mike C &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

it seems that the only ones in this thread that do are the zeal s6 </TD></TR></TABLE>

sell em to j00 f0r cheap
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so what kind of curve is the best? and is the rebound how smooth of ride you will get?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by answer3 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so what kind of curve is the best? and is the rebound how smooth of ride you will get?</TD></TR></TABLE>

define smooth.
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Old 01-28-2005, 12:27 PM
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what exactly does the curve under the x axis represent?
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either rebound or compression...
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Actually for $700 I got all four DA Koni 80 series revalved with good compression and digressive low speed tuning on both the rebound and compression. That is only $200 more and you get low speed tuning added to compression and a decent compression range.

In my experience Koni will do anything that you ask them to. I also heard that Koni has started making the 80 series widely available with digressive tuning. Talk about a damper for the masses
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