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Old 07-12-2019, 04:16 PM
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My Honda 1993 engine light is on, a solid light. I jumped the 2 pins together (service check connector, located on the passenger's side). The engine light did not blink, it was still solid light. The only thing i noticed was that the light got a bit brighter with during the 2pins jumped together with a wire. i'm not sure what i'm doing wrong.

I reset the ECU and it the engine light was still the same.


update 7/14/19: Additional information, the low light setting of my headlight does not work. I switched the light bulbs around, it was still the same. I replaced one of the headlight, it was also still the same. I don't know if this has anything to do with CEL code 0.

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It's called code 0.

Does the engine start and run?
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It's called code 0.

Does the engine start and run?

The car start and runs fine. Nothing wrong with the car that i can tell. Code 0, sounds like something is wrong with the ECU. It highly possible the ECU got wet.

I'm trying to get DEQ tag for the car, so i can use it as daily. My solution is to get a new ECU? Since its a code 0, it will failed DEQ for sure?
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If the car starts and runs, then the problem may be a short to ground in the CEL wire that runs from the cluster to the ECU.
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If the car starts and runs, then the problem may be a short to ground in the CEL wire that runs from the cluster to the ECU.
I'm not sure what you just said, i'm not very knowledgeable about car. what do you recommend that next step?
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I'm not sure what you just said, i'm not very knowledgeable about car. what do you recommend that next step?
Do you have a multimeter or can you get one?
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Do you have a multimeter or can you get one?

I don't have one currently, just bought one on amazon, and will be here in two days. I have the 1992-1995 honda service manual also.
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Do you have a multimeter or can you get one?

side question: The CEL is giving code 0 with and without the jumped connection. Does this mean the ECU is bad? or more like short ground on the wire like your said?
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The ECU isn't reporting the actual code unless the service connector is jumped. When not jumped, the CEL/MIL being on is just letting you know of an active issue that the ECU is able to report on. As for the Code 0 being reported, it will be worth your time investigating that circuit over immediately declaring the ECU as faulty and forking over money for a replacement (that can always come later on if completely necessary).

This is also a good opportunity for you to get to know your vehicle intimately...a learning experience of this kind is almost never a bad thing. Good luck, stick to your FSM and report back as to what you might find.

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oh i see. got it. thanks
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Is this what you are referring to? Troubleshooting flowchart for the ECU

https://www.manualslib.com/manual/46...age=211#manual
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or more like short ground on the wire like your said?
This^ is more likely in your case. If you don't find a short in the wire, then the ECU probably must be replaced.
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and you were referring to the one of the wires from the cluster to the ECU?
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and you were referring to the one of the wires from the cluster to the ECU?
Did you have the multimeter?
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i do. i'm not where to start.
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Is this what you are referring to? Troubleshooting flowchart for the ECU

https://www.manualslib.com/manual/46...age=211#manual
Yes^ (troubleshooting the ECU circuit)

...and the next page when you scroll to the right.
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If you have specific questions about the troubleshooting diagrams, just post them.
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thank you for all your help. i'll post them if I have anymore questions.
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thank you for all your help. i'll post them if I have anymore questions.
FYI

You don't need the ECU test harness. Just back probe the ECU connectors.
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The first test I'd do is unplug ECU (always disconnect battery before unplugging or plugging in an ECU) then reconnect the battery, turn the key on and the CEL should not come on. If it does, there's a short in the wiring.
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7/14/19 Update:

Here what i did today. I followed user mk378's instruction. i disconnect the battery, both the positive and negative leads. Then i disconnect the ECU. I reconnect the positive and negative leads to the battery (without the ECU plugged in). I turned the ignition to "on" position. No CEL code shown. What does this mean? I'm not too sure. Sorry i'm very new at car stuff.

I also tried something else. I bought a used ECU pulled from 1994 hatchback VX (same model as mine). The seller stated no CEL code. I disconnected the battery before removing the original ECU from the car. I plugged in the ECU that i just bought, and re-plugged the battery. I turned on the ignition, i got the damn CEL code 0 again. I'm note sure if i need to drive the car for while after switching the ECU. I let it idle for a bitl; the CEL code was still there.

Any suggestions for the next step?
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Any suggestions for the next step?
mk placed a shiny object in front of you, and it was worth a shot.

Shiny objects are attractive. His test was shiny and attractive because it might allow you to avoid doing the basic electrical tests that require a multimeter.

This time, the shiny object did not pan out. Get back to the service manual troubleshooting.
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yes sir..service manual it is
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In the diagram below, red indicates what you know already. Green indicates where you are going.


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great thank you


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