KIWI

Hi Guys,
Long time - no contact.

Special Projects Motor Sports has recently moved to our New big Shop in the City of Orange CA.
Some of you may have noticed... Or Not... We have been keeping a low profile in Motor Sports for a few months while building up the Business side of our Race Team. We have recently made many new overseas contacts, and parts suppliers and welcome some great new sponsors to our team.
Love us or Hate us... No one can deny that we are always ready to help our fellow Racer, and we will continue to pass on our findings to the Racers. As most of you know, We try to avoid selling "Junk" And we are constantly pushing our suppliers to make changes to increase quality or performance.
We are about to make the "Big Come Back." to racing... Possibly even in NASA?
All five of our touring cars are being re-built, using lots of our exclusive new performance and suspension equipment, as well as a K-24 repower for the #66 JDM Integra. Our #65 K-20 Integra will be re-furbished and modified and will once again be driven by Tom Lepper. An exciting new Honda Project is also in the Pipeline. Watch the magazines for some up coming articles.

We have some great new Sponsors and Products and will endeavour to have Stocks of the following at all the events we attend...
Flame Crusher USA, Driving Suits. TORCO Advanced Lubricants. German made- Gear-X Final Drives & C/RGear sets. Geiger Cams. Revolutionary New 2B-COOL flame proof cool shirts. Six Sigma Racing Headers. PCi Trailing Arm Bearing Kits. And many more Great suppliers.
We are still eagerly waiting for samples of the PIC Suspension components

Regarding Final Drives....
We discontinued our association with SRR after a Trip to their facility in Taiwan earlier this year. Their interest in production of Honda parts has almost disapeared and they are more interested in Ford Focus now. We also found that our so called exclusive US Distribution was not so exclusive. After buying various ratios in lots of 30 or more for two years. We paid for the re-tooling and setup, and purchased 30 sets of the early CRX/Civic final drives only to find that they were being made available to anyone. However, the fall out of failures was coming back to us! Of course now that they are out of stock SRR is waiting for someone to order a large quantity again... We will not. And nobody else apears to be stepping up.

We have been trying for two years to improve on the machining faults in the Final Drives from SRR and several other manufacturers Final Drives, that we found were causing Catastrophic failures. Unfortunately they will not, or cannot change their machining processes. After trying several test samples that we felt were just band aids to the problem, we started looking in Germany and elsewhere for a remedy.

We have found a manufacturer who is now producing the Final Drives to our specifications, We will be releasing the new Brand - "Gear-X TM" Honda Final Drives and Close ratio Gear Kits very soon. I have some 4.9 & 4.7 D & B series in stock. We will also be releasing our own range of Honda "Geiger Cams" and lightweight Cam Gears. The Cams and Cam Gears will be available in 2 to 3 weeks.

We have recieved and tested samples of the 4.9 and 4.73 for the '92 and up Civic and I can tell you that the quality and value for money IN MY OPINION is better than SRR, ATS, or any of the Final Drives I have seen. However, We are quite happy to supply our customers with any other brands that we distribute, and we acnowledge that MF for instance covers a far more comprehensive range than we do and they also apear to have done thorough research and testing.
As I have said all along, We specialise in Hard Core Racing Parts For Racers and we are more inclined to push the parts we use in our own cars.
We will soon, once again be able to supply Kits to suit the CRX/Civic Cable Gear Boxes.
Most popular Honda B, D, & K Series ratios will be available. We are trying to hold the price down to $490.00 as before, which great value for money.

Jeff (Kiwi) Owen

Special Projects Motor Sports

kiwiowen@sbcglobal.net
or kiwiowen@hotmai.com

PS. If anyone is interested in sending me a sample B16A/ Cable - Or early Integra Cable trans Stock FD Ring Gear and Pinion Shaft. We will investigate the possibility of having 4.9 & 4.7 Ratios Manufactured.


Modified by KIWI at 2:25 PM 8/29/2006

Vitt1

KIWI, will the "Geiger Cams" and lightweight Cam Gears be available for B series as well? And are you guys planning to make a couple of different ones with regards to lift and duration?

KIWI

Absolutely...
I will publish a list of the spec's as soon as I can.
These cams are all ground from OEM Chill Cast Cores and will be available in comparable spec's to most of the recognized and popular brands.
They will be available for D, B, K and H & F series Engines.
We will have our web site up soon, where we will publish Dyno comparisons etc.

Kiwi


Modified by KIWI at 12:19 PM 8/27/2006

Masta

Love seeing posts like this. I can't wait for the D-series cam specs.

Thanks for supporting the hobby.

nfn15037

Any word on a dog-engagement gear set for B series hydraulic transmissions?

slofu

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These cams are all ground from OEM Billets
Kiwi</TD></TR></TABLE>

i thought that OEM cams were chill-cast. do you just mean OEM cores?

KIWI

Ooops!! Yep! Sorry, you are quite right. See edit.


Modified by KIWI at 12:20 PM 8/27/2006

BigAl

Hey Kiwi
Have just installed the 4.7 gear x final that you supplied in our b series gearbox .

The parts just ''dropped in '' as you said they would.

I will not mention the brand of the 4.7 final that we removed but when comparing the pinion shafts, the gear x piece had noticeable different gear angles, was fully deburred and had a very good surface finish .

We have only been able to get in 20 laps at the track , but did notice right from scratch that there was a noticeable reduction in both gearbox whine and backlash .

We have always believed that the premature failure of previous aftermarket final drives was due to a combination of the way the first gear bearing surface was machined and the excessive amount of backlash .

We are keen to get our hands on your C/R gear set and do a back to back on the ATS kit we currently run . pm me a price .

Keep up the good work

Al

Vitt1

Since the topic is FD, I have a related question, especially since race with the higher FDs. Do you guys use tranny fluid coolers on you race cars?

The reason I ask is because I have a ITR tranny with the OEM 4.79 FD on my track GSR. I don't know what it is, but it seems that I start getting a grind as soon as the tranny gets really hot. I tried synthetics, and I tried the KAAZ and ATS fluids since I have the ATS LSD.

I had all new gears and synchros installed on the car, and every track day, with brand new fluid, I start to get the grind as soon as it gets hot. I plan to install a tranny cooler, but I was wondering if you that race the cars have the same problem, or could it be something else?

prkiller

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but I was wondering if you that race the cars have the same problem, or could it be something else?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I would have to say it's something else. You should not need a tranny cooler. Could be something installed incorrectly in the tranny, or maybe the shift linkage is bent.

Something sounds strange to me!

nfn15037

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Something sounds strange to me!</TD></TR></TABLE>

Agreed. I have no problems going out for 50-70 lap sessions (1:04 laps @ Pocono North) on stock Honda MTL fluid.

Vitt1

Thanks for the replies. I guess it'll have to be opened up again to find out what the problem is.

BigAl

Plate diffs will generate more heat that oem style , particularly on tight circuits.

We run a full undertray and last race season experienece similar problems ie loss of syncro when gearbox started heating

We noted that when the oil temp reached 280 deg F plus the problems started .

We were running a large alloy rad. and a mocal front mounted oil cooler .

During the off season we revised the cooling ducts in the hood

On our first test day the oil temp dropped to 230 deg F and the gearbox problem was solved . Second gear syncro can still be a problem if you rush the downshift.

I believe we were experiencing heat soak from the block to the gearbox housing .

We did purchase the necessary parts to fit a remote gearbox cooler but now do not believe we need it

I have found the best oil to run with a plate style diff in the Y80/S80 is a special motul FF comp. grade that was originally made for the subaru rally team . It is "kind" on syncros and gives a very good lockup in the diff without causing high levels of wear.

We source it from Motul Asia and I am unsure if it is currently available in USA.

spsspeed

On the subject of overheating with the Honda MTL. In my car (1995 ITS GSR) it would overheat the Honda fluid in the tranny within 30 minutes and then begin grinding.

I finally tried the GM Synchromesh (Friction modified), it works great and I have not had a problem since. It took me about two rebuilds on my tranny to finally decide the Honda MTL does not work.

You can search in the Type R forum about the Synchromesh, I would try this fluid before taking the tranny out.

Scott S.
#38 ITS GS-R

Vitt1

The problem with synchromesh friction modifier on a clutch type LSD is that it makes the LSD disks slip way too much. In fact, in normal street driving while on slow turns, you hear these loud popping noises of the disks slipping, and it sounds like there is something seriously wrong with the car. I learned it the hard way by using the redline fricition modifier.

BTW, KIWI sorry to hijack the thread. Thanks to BigAl for the info.

Now back to the subject of FINAL DRIVES and goodies to come from Special Projects Motor Sports

BrianZ

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Agreed. I have no problems going out for 50-70 lap sessions (1:04 laps @ Pocono North) on stock Honda MTL fluid.</TD></TR></TABLE>

do you have a LSD? my car had no problems without the lsd.. once I put it in the trans oil temp went up.. I dont have a gauge, but I cant even touch the tranny case after a session anymore..

nfn15037

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Quaife LSD probebly generates far less heat than clutch type LSDs.

BigAl

As i mentioned Motul make a special oil to suit plate diffs that does not gum up honda syncros.
kiwi has asked me to send him some so contact him and he may be able to help you out

Do not use MTF with a plate diff!

migs

Installed in my USDM ITR transmission. I find it much more convenient that the GEAR-X components are forged and direct bolt in. Some final drives REQUIRE that you use the JDM 1st gear. GEAR-X does not.

Vitt1

KIWI, I've been trying to get a hold of you. Any news on that tranny fluid you were working on getting? thanx

Cory Matthews

yay

Bense

I'm dying for a taller first gear for the D trans.

a 2.75 1st gear would be PERFECT

migs

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I think he was just using MOTUL if I remember correctly.

ezmoneytrg

where exactly in orange, i would like to see what you have to offer, iam located aroung the cirlce in orange

Vitt1

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It's a Motul formula that is only available in Asia made for rally cars, but he was supposed to get a shipment that he was going to sell here. Another fluid he uses is Torco brand, but I don't know exactly which. He also was working with Torco on developing a formula specific for our Honda cars.

I wanna try the Motul 300, but I'm not sure it can be used on cars with clutch LSDs. It's advertised like this: For all gearboxes and hypoid rear axles without limited slip systems.