The Official Formula 1 2009 Season Thread
11-16-2008, 10:36 PM
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The Official Formula 1 2009 Season Thread
Welcome to the 2009 F1 Season!
12/5/08: Honda pulls out of Formula 1
3/5/09: BrawnGP launched: Honda chassis with Mercedes power
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2008 was an epic year for F1. From a title being decided at the last corner of the last lap of the last race, to plenty of off-track drama, there was something for everyone. From the president of the FIA caught with his pants down to the unfortunate demise of Super Aguri. Race steward shenanigans, suprise rain, and surprise winners. DC retires. Vettel thrills in Monza in the wet. Robert Kubica wins in Montreal to give BMW their first ever win as a constructor, while Hamilton inexplicably rear-ends Raikkonen in the pit lane. Fernando Alonso gets mysteriously fast in the last 1/3rd of the season and scores consecutive victories, the first being under the lights of the first ever night race in Singapore. Massa spins 5 times in the wet at Silverstone and then charges back to finish 1 point short of glory.
Surely 2009 will offer plenty for F1 fans to discuss. Can Hamilton defend his title? Will Massa fight back again and steal the crown? Will Kimi find his winning pace again? Will the rule changes re-shuffle the pecking order? Will there be more passing? Will Super Aguri rise again? Will Prodrive field a car? Will KERS make a difference?
There is much to discuss...
2009 Race Schedule (as of 11/17/2008)
1 Australian GP Melbourne Grand Prix Circuit Melbourne, Victoria 29 March
2 Malaysian GP Sepang International Circuit Kuala Lumpur 5 April
3 Chinese GP Shanghai International Circuit Shanghai 19 April
4 Bahrain GP Bahrain International Circuit Sakhir, Manama 26 April
5 Spanish GP Circuit de Catalunya Barcelona 10 May
6 Monaco GP Circuit de Monaco Monte Carlo 24 May
- Canadian GP (left off schedule due to finance problems)
- French GP (promoter cancelled race due to finance problems)
7 Turkish GP Istanbul Park Istanbul 7 June
8 British GP Silverstone Circuit Silverstone 21 June
9 German GP Nürburgring Nürburg 12 July
10 Hungaroring Hungarian GP Budapest 26 July
11 European GP 4 Valencia Street Circuit Valencia 23 August
12 Belgian GP Circuit de Spa-Francorchamps Spa 30 August
13 Italian GP Autodromo Nazionale Monza Monza 13 September
14 Singapore GP Marina Bay Street Circuit Singapore 27 September
15 Japanese GP Suzuka Circuit Suzuka 4 October
16 Brazilian GP Autódromo José Carlos Pace São Paulo 18 October
17 Abu Dhabi GP Yas Marina Circuit Abu Dhabi 1 November
Race Schedule Notes:
Abu Dhabi: new circuit
Canadian GP: It will be the first time since 1958 there has not been a GP in North America.
Japanese GP: Suzuka Circuit alternating with Fuji
German GP: Hockenheimring alternating with Nürburgring
Chinese GP: Moved to April from previous October date
Teams / Drivers:
- Vodafone McLaren Mercedes
Lewis Hamilton
Heikki Kovalainen
- Scuderia Ferrari Marlboro
Felipe Massa
Kimi Räikkönen
- BMW Sauber F1 Team
Robert Kubica
Nick Heidfeld
- ING Renault F1 Team
Fernando Alonso
Nelson Piquet Jr.
- Panasonic Toyota Racing
Jarno Trulli
Timo Glock
- Scuderia Toro Rosso
Sebastian Buemi
Sebastian Bourdais
-Red Bull Racing
Mark Webber
Sebastian Vettel
- AT&T Williams F1
Nico Rosberg
Kazuki Nakajima
- Force India F1 Team
Adrian Sutil
Giancarlo Fisichella
- Honda Racing F1 Team
Jensen Button
Reubens Barrichello
Team Notes:
David Coulthard retires, replaced by Sebastian Vettel
Force India switches engine suppliers from Ferrari to Mercedes
Technical Specifications / Rule Changes:
- After being banned since the 1998 Formula One season, slick tyres will be provided by Bridgestone in 2009.
- Car width (wheel to wheel) increased from 1.8 meters to 2.0 meters
- Front wing lowered (from 15cm to 7.5Cm) and widened (from 145 to 180cm), limited number of elements
- Rear wing higher and narrower (80cm wide instead of 100cm), and 95cm tall (instead of 80cm)
- All appendages (deflectors, winglets, chimneys etc.) are banned
- Diffuser moved towards the center axle of rear wheels
- Diffuser max steep angle and height increased (max height 17.5cm vs 12cm)
- Drivers will be allowed to alter their front wings twice per lap. The flap will be controlled and monitored by the standard ECU. The software in this unit is FIA-controlled, so it will only allow two adjustments per lap. The number of settings available to the driver will be up to the team, but the maximum flap angle range is +/- 3 degrees.
- Heating tyre blankets banned
- Optional "Kinetic Energy Recovery System", or KERS. This is a regenerative brake device that is designed to recover some of the vehicle's kinetic energy that is normally dissipated as heat during braking. The recovered energy could be stored electrically, in a battery or supercapacitor, or mechanically, in a flywheel, for use as a source of additional accelerative power at the driver's discretion.
- Engine life extended from two to three races
Reminders about thread etiquiette:
- The membership of Honda-tech is primarily based in the United States. Posting spoilers before race events have aired is really bad form. Some races are slightly tape delayed, or delayed by several hours to fit broadcaster's restrictions. Please use disgretion when posting about live action (likewise as a reader if you are not watching the race live, it may be best to avoid the thread).
- Insults and flaming are a sure way to get some unwanted attention from moderators. The thread is actively moderated.
12/5/08: Honda pulls out of Formula 1
3/5/09: BrawnGP launched: Honda chassis with Mercedes power
------
2008 was an epic year for F1. From a title being decided at the last corner of the last lap of the last race, to plenty of off-track drama, there was something for everyone. From the president of the FIA caught with his pants down to the unfortunate demise of Super Aguri. Race steward shenanigans, suprise rain, and surprise winners. DC retires. Vettel thrills in Monza in the wet. Robert Kubica wins in Montreal to give BMW their first ever win as a constructor, while Hamilton inexplicably rear-ends Raikkonen in the pit lane. Fernando Alonso gets mysteriously fast in the last 1/3rd of the season and scores consecutive victories, the first being under the lights of the first ever night race in Singapore. Massa spins 5 times in the wet at Silverstone and then charges back to finish 1 point short of glory.
Surely 2009 will offer plenty for F1 fans to discuss. Can Hamilton defend his title? Will Massa fight back again and steal the crown? Will Kimi find his winning pace again? Will the rule changes re-shuffle the pecking order? Will there be more passing? Will Super Aguri rise again? Will Prodrive field a car? Will KERS make a difference?
There is much to discuss...
2009 Race Schedule (as of 11/17/2008)
1 Australian GP Melbourne Grand Prix Circuit Melbourne, Victoria 29 March
2 Malaysian GP Sepang International Circuit Kuala Lumpur 5 April
3 Chinese GP Shanghai International Circuit Shanghai 19 April
4 Bahrain GP Bahrain International Circuit Sakhir, Manama 26 April
5 Spanish GP Circuit de Catalunya Barcelona 10 May
6 Monaco GP Circuit de Monaco Monte Carlo 24 May
- Canadian GP (left off schedule due to finance problems)
- French GP (promoter cancelled race due to finance problems)
7 Turkish GP Istanbul Park Istanbul 7 June
8 British GP Silverstone Circuit Silverstone 21 June
9 German GP Nürburgring Nürburg 12 July
10 Hungaroring Hungarian GP Budapest 26 July
11 European GP 4 Valencia Street Circuit Valencia 23 August
12 Belgian GP Circuit de Spa-Francorchamps Spa 30 August
13 Italian GP Autodromo Nazionale Monza Monza 13 September
14 Singapore GP Marina Bay Street Circuit Singapore 27 September
15 Japanese GP Suzuka Circuit Suzuka 4 October
16 Brazilian GP Autódromo José Carlos Pace São Paulo 18 October
17 Abu Dhabi GP Yas Marina Circuit Abu Dhabi 1 November
Race Schedule Notes:
Abu Dhabi: new circuit
Canadian GP: It will be the first time since 1958 there has not been a GP in North America.
Japanese GP: Suzuka Circuit alternating with Fuji
German GP: Hockenheimring alternating with Nürburgring
Chinese GP: Moved to April from previous October date
Teams / Drivers:
- Vodafone McLaren Mercedes
Lewis Hamilton
Heikki Kovalainen
- Scuderia Ferrari Marlboro
Felipe Massa
Kimi Räikkönen
- BMW Sauber F1 Team
Robert Kubica
Nick Heidfeld
- ING Renault F1 Team
Fernando Alonso
Nelson Piquet Jr.
- Panasonic Toyota Racing
Jarno Trulli
Timo Glock
- Scuderia Toro Rosso
Sebastian Buemi
Sebastian Bourdais
-Red Bull Racing
Mark Webber
Sebastian Vettel
- AT&T Williams F1
Nico Rosberg
Kazuki Nakajima
- Force India F1 Team
Adrian Sutil
Giancarlo Fisichella
- Honda Racing F1 Team
Jensen Button
Reubens Barrichello
Team Notes:
David Coulthard retires, replaced by Sebastian Vettel
Force India switches engine suppliers from Ferrari to Mercedes
Technical Specifications / Rule Changes:
- After being banned since the 1998 Formula One season, slick tyres will be provided by Bridgestone in 2009.
- Car width (wheel to wheel) increased from 1.8 meters to 2.0 meters
- Front wing lowered (from 15cm to 7.5Cm) and widened (from 145 to 180cm), limited number of elements
- Rear wing higher and narrower (80cm wide instead of 100cm), and 95cm tall (instead of 80cm)
- All appendages (deflectors, winglets, chimneys etc.) are banned
- Diffuser moved towards the center axle of rear wheels
- Diffuser max steep angle and height increased (max height 17.5cm vs 12cm)
- Drivers will be allowed to alter their front wings twice per lap. The flap will be controlled and monitored by the standard ECU. The software in this unit is FIA-controlled, so it will only allow two adjustments per lap. The number of settings available to the driver will be up to the team, but the maximum flap angle range is +/- 3 degrees.
- Heating tyre blankets banned
- Optional "Kinetic Energy Recovery System", or KERS. This is a regenerative brake device that is designed to recover some of the vehicle's kinetic energy that is normally dissipated as heat during braking. The recovered energy could be stored electrically, in a battery or supercapacitor, or mechanically, in a flywheel, for use as a source of additional accelerative power at the driver's discretion.
- Engine life extended from two to three races
Reminders about thread etiquiette:
- The membership of Honda-tech is primarily based in the United States. Posting spoilers before race events have aired is really bad form. Some races are slightly tape delayed, or delayed by several hours to fit broadcaster's restrictions. Please use disgretion when posting about live action (likewise as a reader if you are not watching the race live, it may be best to avoid the thread).
- Insults and flaming are a sure way to get some unwanted attention from moderators. The thread is actively moderated.
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11-17-2008, 01:54 AM
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UGLY. Why they are testing the 09 car w/ grooved tires i don't know.
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11-17-2008, 03:21 AM
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The Canadian GP is officially DEAD.
At rare look at a race contract proposal and the denial fax from Bernie:
http://files.newswire.ca/643/F1correspondance[1].pdf
At rare look at a race contract proposal and the denial fax from Bernie:
http://files.newswire.ca/643/F1correspondance[1].pdf
11-17-2008, 03:31 AM
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In for 2009
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What a hideously weird look... I tell you, full bodied cars are the way to go
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What a hideously weird look... I tell you, full bodied cars are the way to go
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11-17-2008, 05:20 AM
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What he hell happened to this stupid website... I love you guys and this F1 thread, but I can't even make it function properly.
Hopefully I can get you guys to help start active discussion on ***********... I need zeroforum
Hopefully I can get you guys to help start active discussion on ***********... I need zeroforum
11-17-2008, 05:40 AM
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When the hell did MSchu become a Mod!?! :-) And what the heck defines a "Senior Member"?
(I hate not having my recent posts)
Enjoy watching the ugly cars guys.
(I hate not having my recent posts)
Enjoy watching the ugly cars guys.
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11-17-2008, 07:19 AM
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It appears that Reubens is out with Honda, he was not invited to winter testing. Is there any place for Reubens to go?
His book should be interesting, I will read it.
Scott
His book should be interesting, I will read it.
Scott
11-17-2008, 07:24 AM
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Wow you where right bauley. These cars are goofy as hell and wtf is up with the front wing.
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11-17-2008, 07:40 AM
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I *think* that is a 2008 base chassis on the BMW...meaning the track will be much wider on the actual 09 cars.
Williams' front wing looks prettier
Williams' front wing looks prettier
11-17-2008, 07:45 AM
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Thats for sure but look at that rear wing. has FIA officially realeased WHY the constraints on that? Is it really going to promote that much more passing?
O and btw you still need to send me that link... F1 stream...
O and btw you still need to send me that link... F1 stream...
11-17-2008, 07:48 AM
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The 2009 car screams "Don't look at me! I'm hideous!" Poor car.
But hey, if it allows a little more passing and tighter racing, I could learn to love it.
But hey, if it allows a little more passing and tighter racing, I could learn to love it.
11-17-2008, 07:52 AM
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11-17-2008, 08:15 AM
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Where is the previous 2008 F1 thread? I fear it was too big to survive this conversion to the vbulletin database.
this forum software is ****.
11-17-2008, 08:21 AM
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I think Spade was thinking about starting it. I'll be following ALMS pretty closely in 09.
I know...I haven't searched for it but I'll take a look. I hope it didn't get canned b/c of the sheer size of it.
I know...I haven't searched for it but I'll take a look. I hope it didn't get canned b/c of the sheer size of it.
11-17-2008, 08:25 AM
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11-17-2008, 08:26 AM
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Right...IB shut it down and it's not on the last two pages which it should be. I'm hoping that the situation gets rectified in the next couple of days. Hope being the key word.