Ekasey

http://www.progressauto.com

Spherical Bearings and other suspension goodies

info here on what progress offers

http://www.livermoreperformanc....html

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http://www.kingmotorsports.com

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http://www.orijinmotorsports.com/


http://www.mardigras.co.uk/htm...3.htm
(some UK site no pics )


Some of the links with pics:

http://www.rpmengineering.biz/pages/honda.htm for Delrin bushings



Trailing arm bushings

http://www.jhpusa.com/catalog/...d=893



and a roll centre adjuster



and from here http://www.jsracing-net.com/catalog/home.php?cat=5



and here http://ingallseng.com/



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And some nice looking parts here:

http://www.technicasport.co.jp/eng/kit.htm

Their Circuit Link kit with hardened urethane bushings



with this grooved bushing to hold the Teflon grease (for a while!)


and for the more serious aficionado, their formula link kits with spherical bearings (aka pillow ball) for bushings:

for EG and DC showing ITR type rear lower control arm


and their EK kit


and their version of the rear trailing arm bushing



I have to say these are some of the nicest looking pieces I have seen, in pictures anyhow. Don't know how to get them though.


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Another trailing arm bushing:



from here: http://www.aj-racing.com/catal...age=1

Some Spoon rear lower arm bushing set for an Integra

http://www.aj-racing.com/catal...age=4

not too much stiffer than stock as described here:
"Under hard braking or other actions resulting in a large shift in suspension load, the front lower arm is exposed to considerable force. The stock lower arm bushings are made from soft rubber and have a hardness rating of only 70. Under heavy load, the stock bushing displaces and compresses, adversely affecting handling. Spoon lower arm bushing are 29% harder than stock with a hardness rating of 90. It also features a larger diameter collar to help improve handling response. Spoon bushings increase suspension stiffness, and improve handling response and composure. "

There is a limit to how much stiffer one rubber piece can be compared to another rubber piece, as the durometer of rubber goes from 40 (very soft) to 90 or more, hard.

Spoon Urethane bushing set


and again here is the stiffness increase:
"The Spoon urethane bushing set provides a 26% increase in stiffness over stock. Stock rubber bushings have a hardness rating of 75. Spoon bushing is made from two materials; the upper bushing is white urethane with a hardness rating of 95, and the lower bushing is hard rubber with a hardness rating of 90. These bushings help improve the suspension's ability to dampen violent upward shocks and improve the suspension's composure, stability and response, especially at high speeds."

At least Spoon come clean with some specs on their rubber and urethane vs stock, which is better than the non-info from other manufacturers. This stiffness increase matches my approx. measurements on Mugen vs stock rear trailing arm bushing.

and parts from Skunk-2

http://www.skunk2.com/Merchant...e=FCK

Front upper A-arm and rear camber kit upper link.

Also parts from A-Sports but I don't have a link to the maufacturer's site

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A-Sports parts made by Auto-Advance
http://www.autoadvance-inc.co.jp/
http://www.autoadvance-inc.co.jp/shop/make2.html

Front upper control A-arm with spherical bearings


Rear toe control links with spherical bearings


Rear upper link with spherical bearings


Rear upper link with rubber bushings

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I sell a spherical bearing radius rod kit for the 1997+ base preludes, (not sure what other Hondas it will fit yet). I'm also working on getting the LCA kits made up and ready to sell.




more info here:
http://www.mckinneyraceworks.com/index2.html

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Some parts by SRR (mostly Civic, some Integra)

http://www.srr.com.tw/bedrock.asp

Front UCA with spherical bearings for Civic EG, EK


Rear LCA with spherical or resilient bushings


As installed


Rear upper links


Different model with spherical bearings at both ends as installed




Rear toe control links


As installed



Spherical Bearing for Steering Pinion


As installed


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Some parts from Function-7

http://www.function-7.com/a0-sus-info2.html

Rear LCA for ITR



Heim-Bearing Ball Joint Sway Bar Linkages (aka spherical bearings, Rose-joint, pillow-ball, Heim-joint in a rod end)


Rear billet aluminum LCA for Integra, Civic
http://www.function-7.com/a0-sus-info.html




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Links to pics of the bushings and other suspension parts from Hardrace.com for comparison to the others (some of the pics are broken into pieces)

















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these are available in fixed and sliding shafts and are incredibly durable and work extremely well. JHP are probably not going to get any for a while. IM kiwi about getting sets of these as brian himself does not post on here often and his website is not yet up

Currently they are being used on a bunch of track cars and will be seeing some time this season in WC


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Parts from Wicked Tuning:

http://www.wickedtuning.com/lca.html

EG/DC Rear Control Arm


96-00 Honda Civic Rear Control Arm


Honda Civic 96-00 Front Adjustable Camber Kit


92-00 Honda Civic Rear Camber Kit



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Products in urethane from Prothane:

http://www.prothane.com/pages/applications.html




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http://www.energysuspension.com


Thanks evryone for all your input especially rene



Modified by Ekasey at 8:33 AM 2/8/2006

tom_l

i thought progress stopped offering their spherical bearings?

rsca_crx

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tom_l &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i thought progress stopped offering their spherical bearings?</TD></TR></TABLE>

i got a few sets from livermore as posted above not all that long ago (~8mos)

for customer service as well.

Racerboy03

I was just checking out jhpusa.com, they have spherical trailing arm bushings for most hondas, http://www.jhpusa.com/catalog/...d=893 ,

anyone have experience with them?

slammed_93_hatch

yep i run them, different design though, mine are not sloted just bolt holes. No problems so far

descartesfool

Some of the links with pics:

http://www.rpmengineering.biz/pages/honda.htm for Delrin bushings



Trailing arm bushings

http://www.jhpusa.com/catalog/...d=893



and a roll centre adjuster



and from here http://www.jsracing-net.com/catalog/home.php?cat=5



and here http://ingallseng.com/



there's more

descartesfool

And some nice looking parts here:

http://www.technicasport.co.jp/eng/kit.htm

Their Circuit Link kit with hardened urethane bushings



with this grooved bushing to hold the Teflon grease (for a while!)


and for the more serious aficionado, their formula link kits with spherical bearings (aka pillow ball) for bushings:

for EG and DC showing ITR type rear lower control arm


and their EK kit


and their version of the rear trailing arm bushing



I have to say these are some of the nicest looking pieces I have seen, in pictures anyhow. Don't know how to get them though.

descartesfool

Another trailing arm bushing:



from here: http://www.aj-racing.com/catal...age=1

Some Spoon rear lower arm bushing set for an Integra

http://www.aj-racing.com/catal...age=4

not too much stiffer than stock as described here:
"Under hard braking or other actions resulting in a large shift in suspension load, the front lower arm is exposed to considerable force. The stock lower arm bushings are made from soft rubber and have a hardness rating of only 70. Under heavy load, the stock bushing displaces and compresses, adversely affecting handling. Spoon lower arm bushing are 29% harder than stock with a hardness rating of 90. It also features a larger diameter collar to help improve handling response. Spoon bushings increase suspension stiffness, and improve handling response and composure. "

There is a limit to how much stiffer one rubber piece can be compared to another rubber piece, as the durometer of rubber goes from 40 (very soft) to 90 or more, hard.

Spoon Urethane bushing set


and again here is the stiffness increase:
"The Spoon urethane bushing set provides a 26% increase in stiffness over stock. Stock rubber bushings have a hardness rating of 75. Spoon bushing is made from two materials; the upper bushing is white urethane with a hardness rating of 95, and the lower bushing is hard rubber with a hardness rating of 90. These bushings help improve the suspension's ability to dampen violent upward shocks and improve the suspension's composure, stability and response, especially at high speeds."

At least Spoon come clean with some specs on their rubber and urethane vs stock, which is better than the non-info from other manufacturers. This stiffness increase matches my approx. measurements on Mugen vs stock rear trailing arm bushing.

and parts from Skunk-2

http://www.skunk2.com/Merchant...e=FCK

Front upper A-arm and rear camber kit upper link.

Also parts from A-Sports but I don't have a link to the maufacturer's site

Chris Sawatsky

no one seems to have listings for crx sphericals aside from the trailing arm bearing. Can you drum up a link for that?

rsca_crx

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chris Sawatsky &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">no one seems to have listings for crx sphericals aside from the trailing arm bearing. Can you drum up a link for that? </TD></TR></TABLE>

the top post has most everything, save for rear toe links. here-

http://www.spcperformance.com/....html

descartesfool

A-Sports parts made by Auto-Advance
http://www.autoadvance-inc.co.jp/
http://www.autoadvance-inc.co.jp/shop/make2.html

Front upper control A-arm with spherical bearings


Rear toe control links with spherical bearings


Rear upper link with spherical bearings


Rear upper link with rubber bushings

PIC Performance

Hopefully, we will have our rear LCA's to add to that list sometime this spring/summer, in polyurethane and spherical bearing variations. A link to our thread here.

577HondaPrelude

I sell a spherical bearing radius rod kit for the 1997+ base preludes, (not sure what other Hondas it will fit yet). I'm also working on getting the LCA kits made up and ready to sell.




more info here:
http://www.mckinneyraceworks.com/index2.html

Roadracejunkie

I used to get the bearings from Progress but they no longer sell them as of last summer. I got the last set of crx/civic 88-91 lca and front crossmember bearings.

I know tom blaney at sbrs.inc.com has front cross member bearings.

descartesfool

Some parts by SRR (mostly Civic, some Integra)

http://www.srr.com.tw/bedrock.asp

Front UCA with spherical bearings for Civic EG, EK


Rear LCA with spherical or resilient bushings


As installed


Rear upper links


Different model with spherical bearings at both ends as installed




Rear toe control links


As installed



Spherical Bearing for Steering Pinion


As installed



Modified by descartesfool at 6:35 PM 1/31/2006

descartesfool

Some parts from Function-7

http://www.function-7.com/a0-sus-info2.html

Rear LCA for ITR



Heim-Bearing Ball Joint Sway Bar Linkages (aka spherical bearings, Rose-joint, pillow-ball, Heim-joint in a rod end)


Rear billet aluminum LCA for Integra, Civic
http://www.function-7.com/a0-sus-info.html

descartesfool

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Modified by descartesfool at 7:12 AM 2/7/2006

descartesfool

Deleted duplicate post


Modified by descartesfool at 7:13 AM 2/7/2006

577HondaPrelude

wow descartesfool that's a triple post, your computer is not agreeing with Honda-tech today.

Chris Sawatsky

how about ITA-legal spherical bearings (ie: spherical bearings that are a direct replacement for OEM style bushings, without replacing the IT-required OEM arms and links
this is what I meant to ask for earlier, for 88-91 crx/civic

Jon Nelson

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chris Sawatsky &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how about ITA-legal spherical bearings (ie: spherical bearings that are a direct replacement for OEM style bushings, without replacing the IT-required OEM arms and links
this is what I meant to ask for earlier, for 88-91 crx/civic</TD></TR></TABLE>

Check http://www.livermoreperformanc....html , near the bottom of the page. There's even a note about them being IT legal.

Not sure if the cost/benefit analysis would work out in favor for the rears: I doubt it.

I HAVE talked with Monty at Livermore performance. Progress is still making them, although they did go on hiatus for a while, and no longer offer them for Integras.

If I place an order, are you interested? You know my address....... only 17 weeks 'till Race Weekend #1!!!!!!

california dude

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Roadracejunkie &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I used to get the bearings from Progress but they no longer sell them as of last summer. I got the last set of crx/civic 88-91 lca and front crossmember bearings.

I know tom blaney at sbrs.inc.com has front cross member bearings.
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Progress still sells all the Spherical Bearing parts, and has everything in stock.

Progress 714-575-1193

eg6vtec1

AM I MISSING SOMTHING HERE? HOW DO YOU RUN DELRIN ON THE REAR ARMS,THAT WOULD ONLY LET THE ARM MOVE UP AND DOWN, BUT IT NEEDS TO ARC WITH THE TRAILING ARM DELRIN HAS NO GIVE ITS SOLID, SO WHATS GIVING, WHAT ARE THEY THINKING, MAYBE I SHOULD GIVE EM A CALL 2C

descartesfool

Links to pics of the bushings and other suspension parts from Hardrace.com for comparison to the others (some of the pics are broken into pieces)

: alexander :

these are available in fixed and sliding shafts and are incredibly durable and work extremely well. JHP are probably not going to get any for a while. IM kiwi about getting sets of these as brian himself does not post on here often and his website is not yet up

Currently they are being used on a bunch of track cars and will be seeing some time this season in WC