EG Camber Kits
 

What camber kits is everyone running and anyone having clearance issues?
also what spring rates and size rims please and thank you

Re: EG Camber Kits (bigG)
 

stock UCA's are fine

camber kits will slip/fail/break/crash/burn

Re: EG Camber Kits (B18CXr)
 

i've never had an aftermarket camber kit slip on me. I've been running them for over 5 years!

Re: EG Camber Kits (B18CXr)
 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B18CXr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">stock UCA's are fine

camber kits will slip/fail/break/crash/burn</TD></TR></TABLE>

That's not what he asked. We all know the stock UCA works okay, but are intended for general street duty - and are not optimized for racing, track duty, or even running non-stock ride heights.

I have been using the Wicked Tuning upper control arms with adjustable camber on my project Integra and they work well. I took out the 600 lb springs in my Koni Sports and jacked up the front suspension until the UCA bottomed on the fender well. The difference in wheel travel between stock and the WT UCA's was about a half of an inch. If running the aftermarket UCA's, you might want to raise the car one half of an inch and run a bump stop a half of an inch longer. And the bright side is now you can optimize your static camber setting, which has a greater benefit than the half inch higher C.G. has on performance.

To summarize, the aftermarket UCA's have some benefits and some drawbacks and unless you're only wanting to Slam your car, then you can benefit from the ability to adjust your static camber.

Re: EG Camber Kits (Johnny Mac)
 

Its A DD But Definetly Not Slamming Unless Its For A Photo Shoot Lol Thanx For The Help

I just installed the front and rear camber kits from 'Wicked' and they held up fine at Nationals. Granted Friday and Saturday we ran in the rain and didn't punish them like I did on Sunday.

Jack, if you would like some updated pics. of the Original Hatchcrap let me know.

Erik, the current 'Original Hatchcrap' owner.

Re: EG Camber Kits (bigG)
 

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Then run the stock UCAs. Aftermarket camber adjusting UCAs will further reduce what little front suspension travel you have left after lowering.

Only use a camber kit up front (on an EG/DC/EK) if you have both very stiff springs and a need for more camber than lowering alone provided for race purposes.

Re: (Redcivic92)
 

Jack, if you would like some updated pics. of the Original Hatchcrap let me know.

Erik, the current 'Original Hatchcrap' owner.


I'd love more, plus I can provide some of the original build if you wish.

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Re: (B18CXr)
 

I understand the reason for using adjustable arms as well as the disadvantages. this car will definitely be seeing the track a lot also and i would like to dial in my camber when i do my alignment. So the question is not whether to use oem or aftermarket but which aftermarket is everyone using. I am not trying to be rude if I come off that way just trying to get the right information. If it helps my front end will have....

Tokico illuminas
Skunk2 8k/450 (10k/550 will be in the rear)
Ground Control Extended Top Hats
Roll Center Adjusters
a Mix between Spherical Bearings And Poly Bushings
205/40/17 tires
21mm stock sway bar


I am leading towards the new skunk2 pro's as they seem to be the ones giving the most clearance and not hitting the shock tower, so if anyone has any experience please let me know thank you.

Wicked Tuning!
http://www.wickedtuning.com

Re: (Andrie Hartanto)
 

any reason to pick these over the other brands? they look the same as the old skunk2 design

Re: (bigG)
 

Hardrace https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif
http://www.specialprojectsms.com /Hardrace

Kiwi

Re: (KIWI)
 

please everyone atleast give some type of data as to why which brand is better than the other

Re: (bigG)
 

Wicked Tuning! https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif

Re: (bigG)
 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bigG &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">please everyone atleast give some type of data as to why which brand is better than the other</TD></TR></TABLE>

How can we? we all run what we like... or sell.
Call them whatever you like.... Most of the products all come from the same place anyway. Pick a Price your happy with, or a color, or the packaging. All of the brands mentioned do the same thing... I don't know that any one is worse than the other?
Just because the part is used by a particular race team, or a particular driver doesnt make it a better product. It all comes down to preference and price!
I have personally tested Hadrace parts and find them to be fine! and at a very good price! The Hardrace Spherical LCA's for example have rubber boots to protect the bearings- Other identical products though more expensive do not have this.
If it's out there for sale and has been for awhile, chances are the product is pretty good. If it was bad you would have heard about it!
But what would I know? I've only been doing this for 38 years! https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emwink.gif
Ps.
Regarding Front & Rear Camber kits- One of my sponsored cars - Chris Travis just won the SCCA Solo Nationals on Hardrace - He swears he got way more clearance and adjustment than he did on the Brand that you are leaning towards? I used to use the same brand but changed for the same reasons.

Kiwi


Modified by KIWI at 4:04 PM 9/25/2008

Re: (KIWI)
 

lol well that actually helped it was clearance i was mostly worried about but i know i wont need as much as other people running smaller tires thanks for the help as i was looking into the hard race spherical bearings also just wasn't sure about the bolts for the ball joint and if they would slip but looks like i can torque them down fairly well since i can use a socket instead of a allen key

Re: (bigG)
 

Wicked Tuning! https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif

Re: EG Camber Kits (bigG)
 

oh yeah in stock too

Re: EG Camber Kits (mlrmotorsports)
 

Hardrace https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif In stock too.... https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emwink.gif

Kiwi

Re: EG Camber Kits (KIWI)
 

Decisions decisions........

Re: EG Camber Kits (mrlegoman)
 

I have never had a problem with custom adjustable upper control arms,, and i beat the crap out of them. I think I have the skunk 2 ( red ones ) and no clearance issues. My car is really low too

I am planning to change to the Special projects ones ( hardrace ) as they come with sphericals for a very reasonable price.

I dont know of any that were properly installed/maintained that have failed.

R

Here is a kit from mfactoryusa.com that doesn't look like the 'slipable' ones like the Skunk2:
http://store.c-speedracing.com/image...tcamberkit.jpg
http://www.mfactoryusa.com/index.php...=&itemID=24974

Here are the ones that I don't feel comfortable with:
http://www.corsportusa.com/store/cat...be27dc70a24fc0

Skunk2 has a new "pro series plus" that looks a little more stout:
http://www.skunk2.com/images/fckproplus.jpg
http://www.advancespeedshop.com/imag...amber_kits.jpg

Here is a picture of some a Ksport kit I took at SEMA:
http://www.smallmountain.us/images/c...camber_kit.jpg

There was another style of UCA that I was on a Japanese site. But right now I'm having no luck finding it again.

I'll throw in my .02
 

I have Omni power UCA's which are similar to the Skunk2.
The reason I bought them was a recommendation from someone I know...and the price was one I couldnt pass up at the time.
However ...My money is on what Kiwi suggests... He has been at this a long long long time.
What he sells is race tested and proven...

Now for the monkey wrench.
After looking at the Mfactory... don't they look shorter? Isn't shorter better?
I have heard of people taking the Omni, and Skunk and shortening them up so they don't slap the shock towers.
Anyone else heard of this practice?

Im all ears.

If you look at the geometry of the mfactory ones and see where the center of the bolt is, the arms are shorter.

From Hardrace:
http://www.hardrace.com/images/produ...6291108451.JPG
The bolt definitely look a bit stouter then those other little socket head screws.

Can anyone confirm the shorter-arm-not-slapping-the-shock-tower thing? I have Skunk2 arms and they whang the crap out of my shock towers. I was expecting them to make their dent and then just have space to move, but that hasn't happened yet :(