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SioneSi Mar 1, 2004 11:23 PM

Custom Rear Subframe Pics/prototype
 
Hey all! I Just would like to share some pictures of a rear subframe brace that a friend of mine fabricates. As most of you people know that with a bigger rear swaybar on a honda civic there are tendencies that part of the Rear sub would tear.

With This brace it distributes force evenly on the subframe under heavy load. Without the brace, load is isolated in one place on the subframe which will eventually give. A must if you want to use bigger rear swaybars.

I am using a Mugen 22 rear sway pictured here.

http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/we...MXk1NDE%3D.jpg

http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/we...MXk1NDE%3D.jpg



For more Detailed information on this piece pm civicferio on here or go to http://www.a-spec-racing.com

thanks for reading https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif









Modified by SioneSi at 9:10 PM 5/2/2005

95dc2 Mar 2, 2004 04:59 AM

Re: Custom Rear Subframe Pics/prototype (SioneSi)
 
that's rediculously clean.....

virginia_dude Mar 2, 2004 05:19 AM

Re: Custom Rear Subframe Pics/prototype (SioneSi)
 
Thats sweet................................And it gives me an idea. One I never had before.

EK4civichatch Mar 2, 2004 06:46 AM

schweeet

Wat material did u use??

743power Mar 2, 2004 08:53 AM

Re: (EK4civichatch)
 
Nice, but most of the people in this forum are running high enough rear rates that they dont worry about rear subframe tearout. I have been drawing up ideas for one of those on my car though. . .

SoloSol Mar 2, 2004 09:53 AM

Re: (743)
 
Im having a hard time telling but thats not an Eg? Do you have an application for that..?

CivicFerio Mar 2, 2004 10:56 AM

Re: (SoloSol)
 
It's made of 6061 T-6 aluminum. So far it's only made for the EK and it compatible with the CTR, mugen 22mm and ITR rear bars. There is still no application for the EG yet.

Regards,
Charleston

http://www.alaniztechnologies.com
http://www.geocities.com/chal15/

ruthless013 Mar 2, 2004 12:50 PM

Re: Custom Rear Subframe Pics/prototype (SioneSi)
 

have seen it in person, quality stuff https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif

nice alternative to the comptech.

ILUVTEC Mar 2, 2004 01:13 PM

Re: Custom Rear Subframe Pics/prototype (ruthless013)
 
Kinda reminds me of my Comptech one(made for a GSR) on my EG hatch. Very nice https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif

hondamanwill Mar 6, 2004 07:25 PM

Re: Custom Rear Subframe Pics/prototype (SioneSi)
 
how long have you tested this? and only a 22mm bar, how about the Mugen 26mm?

AmginE Mar 6, 2004 07:50 PM

Re: Custom Rear Subframe Pics/prototype (hondamanwill)
 
I'd be interested in this if you plan on developing one for the EG.

CivicFerio Mar 7, 2004 02:58 AM

Re: Custom Rear Subframe Pics/prototype (hondamanwill)
 
hondamanwill,

It has been in my car for a few months now and so far my subframe is still holding up. It's also in a few of my friends civic for testing.

I'm now using a 32mm hollow anti roll bar in the back of my civic for accelerated torture test as seen here. The hollow bar will also be available as an upgrade to the 22mm bar and will be less expensive than a mugen 26mm bar.

AmginE

The EG version is currently under development and will be first used in some Honda Challenge cars for testing. Thanks

Regards,
Charleston

http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/we...MXk1NDE%3D.jpg

http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/we...MXk1NDE%3D.jpg

http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/we...MXk1NDE%3D.jpg

http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/we...MXk1NDE%3D.jpg


As you guys can see my I replaced my subframe.


Modified by CivicFerio at 11:00 AM 3/9/2004

hondamanwill Mar 7, 2004 06:35 AM

Re: Custom Rear Subframe Pics/prototype (CivicFerio)
 
Keep me posted on this my 26mm has broken the bracket again and need to fix it so it doesn't happen again. I am willing to due some testing for you if you need a test rat.

EK4civichatch Mar 7, 2004 10:11 AM

Any word on when this will be hitting the open market??

CivicFerio Mar 7, 2004 10:38 AM

Re: (EK4civichatch)
 
It will be in the market soon but I need your help. Is the piece too squary? Should I put some design on the center of the piece? Do you prefer it in colors like anodize black, blue or red? Any suggestions will be appreciated.

Regards,
Charleston

743power Mar 7, 2004 10:50 AM

Re: (CivicFerio)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CivicFerio &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It will be in the market soon but I need your help. Is the piece too squary? Should I put some design on the center of the piece? Do you prefer it in colors like anodize black, blue or red? Any suggestions will be appreciated.

Regards,
Charleston</TD></TR></TABLE>

I think it should follow the shape of the subframe, i.e., more round where the LCA's mount. I'm sure most of us care more about the strength, but I know when I pay $$$ for something, I want it to look as good as it works. Does that make sense?

stscxr Mar 7, 2004 10:52 AM

Re: Custom Rear Subframe Pics/prototype (CivicFerio)
 
So in the first pics the lower control arm bolt is through the plate. In the later pics its underneath. Is there a longer bolt and spacer on the earlier pics to keep the lower control arm supported correctly or is the extra material and hole near the lca bolt unnecessary as in the later pics?

CivicFerio Mar 7, 2004 10:59 AM

Re: Custom Rear Subframe Pics/prototype (stscxr)
 
The later pic with a 32mm anti-roll bar was taken during fitment. Yes, there will be a spacer and a longer bolt on for the LCA on all braces. Good observation stscxr!

743

I'll try to come up with something more curvy or at least round of the edges. Thank you.

Charleston

743power Mar 7, 2004 11:29 AM

Re: Custom Rear Subframe Pics/prototype (CivicFerio)
 
do you have any photos of it off the car?

sublimnal Mar 7, 2004 01:00 PM

Re: Custom Rear Subframe Pics/prototype (743)
 
wow thats pretty kool. i want to see more results. and it they are better results i would like to purchase this peice

heel_touge Mar 7, 2004 03:26 PM

Re: Custom Rear Subframe Pics/prototype (SioneSi)
 
my subframe has definately seen better days.
im interested in this unit.

colt45.5 Mar 7, 2004 03:28 PM

Re: Custom Rear Subframe Pics/prototype (UnDerDog-R)
 
hell yea. Let me know as well. Im not concerned with the way it looks. As long as it doesnt fail. Ill spraypaint it black anyhow. Who cares if it works, and its cheaper. Right!

Downey Mar 7, 2004 08:59 PM

Re: Custom Rear Subframe Pics/prototype (SioneSi)
 
damn it we-todd-did, damn pics are down!

Jon V Mar 8, 2004 08:24 AM

Re: Custom Rear Subframe Pics/prototype (CivicFerio)
 
So it is just a brace for one side right? It would look better if it was more rounded off on the edges, maybe a black powder coat or something would look good?
Any idead if it would work with the 24mm Cusco sway?

Audipwr1 Mar 8, 2004 09:58 AM

Re: Custom Rear Subframe Pics/prototype (Jon V)
 
why did you choose 6061 t6? Its very brittle compared to other al options and tends to crack before it elongates or flexes (hence brittle)



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