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Old 03-21-2012, 07:47 AM
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the rear seat was left in due to the class it was running.
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Stupid question, But why would they leave the rear seats in and put a roll cage through them??

Also good luck on the sound deadening removal, one of, if not the most annoying and time consuming jobs on my car.... but then again we don't have as much access to dry ice over here
The car was prepped for SCCA Showroom Stock C, which required the car to remain stock. Which includes full interior.
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Originally Posted by Tomek
Looks like you are making some great progress, Jake. Looking forward to running some more events together this season!

However, it might take me a while to get used to seeing your car sans door handle scraping body roll
Tom the springs are still pretty soft. I mean 290 F and 350 R. So i'm sure there will be some door scraping action still.
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Ahh I see, We dont have classes like that over here :/
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So far: Bolt in rear trailing arm 1, Jake 0.... Seriously never thought drilling a bolt could be such a challenge.
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The bolt is a pita when it shears like that. I helped someone drill one out on their car once. Not fun.
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The bolt is a pita when it shears like that. I helped someone drill one out on their car once. Not fun.
Yeah so far it has a decent hole drilled in it. But it's now too late to attempt at getting it out. Tried using smaller taps, but no luck. So i drilled a larger hole and tried a larger tap, still no luck. Next time i have the chance to try, probably Friday, i'm going to torch the ****er until it's red hot. Then give it a try. I don't want to drill anymore for risk of cutting up the threads. Last thing i need to buy is a whole new rear trailing arm assembly....
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If you drill/wreck the threads, just put a nut on the other side.

Anti seize everything you put back together and you'll never deal with it again
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If you drill/wreck the threads, just put a nut on the other side.

Anti seize everything you put back together and you'll never deal with it again

This is what I did. Also when you next have a siezed bolt, try tightening it first before trying to undo it.
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Originally Posted by jimbolina25
This is what I did. Also when you next have a siezed bolt, try tightening it first before trying to undo it.
Yeah i have already tried tightening them first. It seems that they are all seized in pretty good on the driver side rear.
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out of curiosity, is that a homologated cage?? Or just a custom jobby??
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Originally Posted by jimbolina25
out of curiosity, is that a homologated cage?? Or just a custom jobby??
It's SCCA and i believe NASA legal.
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Any success yet?
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Any success yet?
Well if success is measured by the loss of finger nails then i think i may have accomplished that...... Seriously i only have one bolt now that's holding me up. And that is the bolt that connects the rear trailing arm to the rear lower control arm. I don't know who the hell did the work on that portion of the car, but whoever it was should DIE!!!!

I finally succeed at drilling out the bolt that was giving me trouble earlier. So i only have this bolt left, and what do you know. It was either over-torqued or cross-threaded, possibly both. My new impact, a breaker bar with pipe, and just sheer brute strength could not overcome this thing. I mean i soaked it with PB Blaster, heated it up good and hot and nothing..... I accomplished to round the head almost completely.

So now i'm left with the option of dropping the whole assembly, which i am 90% finished with and see if i have any luck with it off the car. Hopefully! And i do mean HOPEFULLY i'll be able to get the bolt out then.

Funny thing is that everything on the passenger side rear suspension was all broken free by hand. A little fight was necessary, but it all came free in less than 30 minutes.
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i like the sticker job. looks kewl!!
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i like the sticker job. looks kewl!!
Yeah that's from when my friend owned it and was racing it at the National level. Those have been removed months ago. However i will probably see some vinyl down the road.
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Well if success is measured by the loss of finger nails then i think i may have accomplished that...... Seriously i only have one bolt now that's holding me up. And that is the bolt that connects the rear trailing arm to the rear lower control arm. I don't know who the hell did the work on that portion of the car, but whoever it was should DIE!!!!

I finally succeed at drilling out the bolt that was giving me trouble earlier. So i only have this bolt left, and what do you know. It was either over-torqued or cross-threaded, possibly both. My new impact, a breaker bar with pipe, and just sheer brute strength could not overcome this thing. I mean i soaked it with PB Blaster, heated it up good and hot and nothing..... I accomplished to round the head almost completely.

So now i'm left with the option of dropping the whole assembly, which i am 90% finished with and see if i have any luck with it off the car. Hopefully! And i do mean HOPEFULLY i'll be able to get the bolt out then.

Funny thing is that everything on the passenger side rear suspension was all broken free by hand. A little fight was necessary, but it all came free in less than 30 minutes.
Hang in there buddy, hang in there!
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Well rear trailing arm is now off the car thanks to my new Milwaukee electric impact!



Now it's time to take it to someone a little more knowledgeable when it comes to removing stubborn bolts. All my attempts failed.....



As you can see in the pic that the bolt that secures the rear control arm is rounded off now. Have a feeling that it seized up on the bushing.
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might be less headache to call some sunshine states and get used pieces?!?! but that's not exactly cheap. i guess it's time for cutting wheels and some drill bits?
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Which brand impact tool did you invest in? oops sorry..."Milwaukee electric impact!"

Go spherical man! Now is a good time to do this!

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You can always give a bolt/stud extractor a try. There are a couple different types that fit around stripped bolts. Or have someone weld a new nut to it
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That bolt looks rusty...
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Originally Posted by Robin6
Which brand impact tool did you invest in?

Go spherical man! Now is a good time to do this!
I invested $150 in a Milwaukee electric impact. I know that they are a great dependable brand when it comes to electric power tools. It does a great job for what i need it for. Just not as portable as a battery powered one. However a good cordless impact runs at least $350+. Not to say there aren't some out there that work for less.

As for the spherical, i have thought about it. It's just not a good time for the wallet. However once everything gets installed with new hardware, getting it off will be easy. Compared to right now where everything is seized up.
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Originally Posted by cre8ive
You can always give a bolt/stud extractor a try. There are a couple different types that fit around stripped bolts. Or have someone weld a new nut to it
Working on having a co worker help grind down the rounded edges to the next size down. Worst case scenario i drill it out like i did the last one. Just such a pain in the ***.....

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That bolt looks rusty...
It's not that rusty. I think it's just that the bushing is seized on it.
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FINALLY SUCCESS!!!! However looking at the bushings seems that they are in dire need of replacement. Might just have to upgrade to something a little more race ready!


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