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THEhomelessONE 05-03-2010 10:44 PM

Rustoleum+mineral spirits+HVLP gun= what ratio?
 
It's got a 1.5 tip, I searched everywhere and people are saying anywhere from 4:1 to 1:1. Will I be fine if I keep it simple with a 1:1 ratio? How many coats do you think 2qts (mixed) will last? Thanks guys.

cleve 05-03-2010 11:05 PM

Re: Rustoleum+mineral spirits+HVLP gun= what ratio?
 
theres no real science behind it. just thin it out til you can spray it. usually 10% or so. just experiment a little. also it usually take about 3 qts to a gallon to paint a car

fventura03 05-05-2010 02:36 PM

Re: Rustoleum+mineral spirits+HVLP gun= what ratio?
 
dont need to really thin it out much on a 1.5 tip - is it feels as thick as milk, you're good. i recently sprayed rustoleum on a subframe and thinned it out a lot, it dripped all over :(.

you can see i thinned it too much - there's a lot of drippings on the floor...

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y17...3/IMG_4145.jpg

ej1 rep 05-05-2010 03:30 PM

Re: Rustoleum+mineral spirits+HVLP gun= what ratio?
 
haha be prepared to have a shitty paintjob lol.

fventura03 05-05-2010 03:34 PM

Re: Rustoleum+mineral spirits+HVLP gun= what ratio?
 
^ yeah i don't recommend spraying a car with it. i'd only use it on suspension pieces...

ej1 rep 05-05-2010 03:41 PM

Re: Rustoleum+mineral spirits+HVLP gun= what ratio?
 
Hey fventura if I remember correctly you did a big project with rustoleum and ended up switching to real paint right? You have first hand experiance on how it sucks.
Its so hard to pound it into peoples head how bad it is.

the only way I would do it again if the cars next trip was to the junkyard

fventura03 05-05-2010 03:48 PM

Re: Rustoleum+mineral spirits+HVLP gun= what ratio?
 
^^^ i didn't use rustoleum, i used boat paint - it's a higher quality material (compared to rustoleum) that worked great... i switched to real paint because it went from a budget build to an all out build and cheap paint wasn't going to cut it...

i sold it before i finished it but i started a 1993 coupe project to take its place.. i'm in the process of repainting that also. real auto paint though.

Linked 05-05-2010 03:51 PM

Re: Rustoleum+mineral spirits+HVLP gun= what ratio?
 
the only problem i see people having with rustoleum paint is the fact that they leave orange peel on it and dont clear coat. although there was a thread somewhere on here talking about ptoblems sanding rustoleum when you want to paint again

ej1 rep 05-05-2010 03:52 PM

Re: Rustoleum+mineral spirits+HVLP gun= what ratio?
 
boat paint isnt that much higher quality IMO but from what I saw that k20 hatch was gonna be sick. You should have finished it!

THEhomelessONE 05-06-2010 10:20 PM

Re: Rustoleum+mineral spirits+HVLP gun= what ratio?
 

Originally Posted by fventura03 (Post 42388531)
dont need to really thin it out much on a 1.5 tip - is it feels as thick as milk, you're good. i recently sprayed rustoleum on a subframe and thinned it out a lot, it dripped all over :(.

you can see i thinned it too much - there's a lot of drippings on the floor...

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y17...3/IMG_4145.jpg

What ratio did you mix? Would 2qts rustoleum to 1qt mineral spirits be good? Thanks.

jdmstatus13 05-07-2010 10:52 AM

Re: Rustoleum+mineral spirits+HVLP gun= what ratio?
 
usually reducer is mixed 1:1 man...i really hope ur not painting ur car wih that...ur gunna be pissed after all the work you put into it...

what tip did you use for primer ?? and 1.5 tip is too large for basecoat btw, but its ur call.

and 2qts should last for a whole car...iono wtf that guy sayin 3qts to a gallon...maybe hes talkin about rustoleum, but wih real auto paint you only need 2 qts. basecoats are never sprayed heavily.

THEhomelessONE 05-07-2010 11:04 AM

Re: Rustoleum+mineral spirits+HVLP gun= what ratio?
 
Yeah I'll be using rustoleum, well the paint's already pretty bad and I don't care for the car much, as long as it looks better than it does now, I'm not going to use a primer, what tip would you recommend? I read the rustoleum paint is like a primer, base, and clear in one so I thought the 1.5 would be fine but idk.

Spawne32 05-07-2010 11:07 AM

Re: Rustoleum+mineral spirits+HVLP gun= what ratio?
 
this forum, i swear http://smiliesftw.com/x/2u7wruo.gif

fventura03 05-07-2010 11:14 AM

Re: Rustoleum+mineral spirits+HVLP gun= what ratio?
 

Originally Posted by Spawne32 (Post 42408118)

what's wrong with this forum? noob.

anywho, this process has been proven to be effective at a cheap rate. the problem is that many people who try this process just spray it, and leave it, and thats when it looks really bad. they don't take the time to make it look good, by wetsanding, and polishing...

OP, 1:1 ratio is wayy too thin. try 5%, if thats spraying too thick, then try 10%, good luck - hope you make it look like a proper paint job.

it takes a lot of work to get results like this - but it can be done:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3M9c6lls_0

Spawne32 05-07-2010 11:18 AM

Re: Rustoleum+mineral spirits+HVLP gun= what ratio?
 
lol what dont you people understand about fading with these shit ass paint jobs you all promote on here, you call me the noob, i love how every 50 dollar paint job car on this forum looks like SHIT after a year lol for the money he will spend in rustoleum every year, he could have a fantastic single stage AUTOMOTIVE grade paint job for the same price that will last 5 or more years

fventura03 05-07-2010 11:28 AM

Re: Rustoleum+mineral spirits+HVLP gun= what ratio?
 
for the money, its a good process, and if maintained well, they will stand up to the test and be as good as a single stage job.

jdmstatus13 05-07-2010 12:29 PM

Re: Rustoleum+mineral spirits+HVLP gun= what ratio?
 

Originally Posted by Spawne32 (Post 42408118)

im with you on that one. lol...not everyone on this forum but ffs jus save a little more and you'll save a LOT of time.

and you should use somethin like a:

1.8 tip for primer
1.4 tip for base
1.2/1.3 tip clear

and wow...ur not gunna primer ?? lol if you're not even goin to primer or anything...i doubt u'll take good care of the paint and u even said u dont care for the car very much...jus leave it alone then man. you're just going to waste a lot of time and some money cuz if you dont have any experience in painting its a HUGE pain.

fventura03 05-07-2010 02:45 PM

Re: Rustoleum+mineral spirits+HVLP gun= what ratio?
 
yeah you should at least primer ... :(

THEhomelessONE 05-08-2010 12:22 PM

Re: Rustoleum+mineral spirits+HVLP gun= what ratio?
 
Thanks guys, only reason I wasn't going to primer was because people keep saying I don't need to if I'm using rustoleum, but if it's recommended then I'll do it. Haha yeah I'm going to wet sand and buff, it would look like shit if I didn't. Hey Spawne, I'd love to have an automotive grade paint job! Wanna pay for it? No? Then GTFO if your not going to say anything useful. But thanks again for the help guys, I'm going to start painting next week, I'll make a thread and post some pics of the progress.

Spawne32 05-08-2010 12:38 PM

Re: Rustoleum+mineral spirits+HVLP gun= what ratio?
 

Originally Posted by THEhomelessONE (Post 42416668)
Thanks guys, only reason I wasn't going to primer was because people keep saying I don't need to if I'm using rustoleum, but if it's recommended then I'll do it. Haha yeah I'm going to wet sand and buff, it would look like shit if I didn't. Hey Spawne, I'd love to have an automotive grade paint job! Wanna pay for it? No? Then GTFO if your not going to say anything useful. But thanks again for the help guys, I'm going to start painting next week, I'll make a thread and post some pics of the progress.

hey cheap ass, it cost the same to spray single stage paint as it does to buy all the rustoelum and the supply's needed to actually make it look like its not shit, of course dont listen to anything I say, home depot seems like the right place to go when you want to do a professional job on your car. I knew i was gona regret buying a honda with this bullshit that goes on, i wish i bought a mustang.

Spawne32 05-08-2010 12:39 PM

Re: Rustoleum+mineral spirits+HVLP gun= what ratio?
 

Originally Posted by fventura03 (Post 42410000)
yeah you should at least primer ... :(

hes better off not using primer, if he does theres a good chance the urethane primer which is catalyzed will react with the rustoleum.

https://honda-tech.com/forums/paint-body-84/refinishing-after-%2450-paint-job-%2Abad-idea%2A-2490171/

MrHappypants 05-08-2010 09:07 PM

Re: Rustoleum+mineral spirits+HVLP gun= what ratio?
 

Originally Posted by THEhomelessONE (Post 42369636)
It's got a 1.5 tip, I searched everywhere and people are saying anywhere from 4:1 to 1:1. Will I be fine if I keep it simple with a 1:1 ratio? How many coats do you think 2qts (mixed) will last? Thanks guys.

I used a 1:1 mix with my rustolum sprayed on...

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n...6/IMG_3885.jpg

just make sure you spray thin coats sand alot... you will need more then 2qts if your spraying it on...

Dont listen to everything you hear on the forums... Test a part see if you like it..

THEhomelessONE 05-10-2010 01:15 PM

Re: Rustoleum+mineral spirits+HVLP gun= what ratio?
 
What kind of gun did you use? Oh and the tip size on my gun is 1.4, sorry. So 1:1 wasn't too watery? How long did you wait between coats before sanding/laying down a second coat? Thanks.

THEhomelessONE 05-28-2010 12:27 PM

Re: Rustoleum+mineral spirits+HVLP gun= what ratio?
 
Well I mixed 50/50 and it's looking great! Just got done wet sanding with 600grit after 2 coats of paint, how should I clean the car now before laying more paint down? I've got everything masked off so if I wash the car it's all going to fall off, thanks.

MrHappypants 05-29-2010 12:07 PM

Re: Rustoleum+mineral spirits+HVLP gun= what ratio?
 

Originally Posted by THEhomelessONE (Post 42608494)
Well I mixed 50/50 and it's looking great! Just got done wet sanding with 600grit after 2 coats of paint, how should I clean the car now before laying more paint down? I've got everything masked off so if I wash the car it's all going to fall off, thanks.

put some mineral spirits in a spray bottle > Spray an Wipe <


I waited 24hours before sanding an painting


Gun I used

https://honda-tech.com/attachment.ph...1&d=1264301888

Sorry I took so long to reply haha

Spawne32 05-29-2010 02:29 PM

Re: Rustoleum+mineral spirits+HVLP gun= what ratio?
 

Originally Posted by MrHappypants (Post 42615320)
put some mineral spirits in a spray bottle > Spray an Wipe <


I waited 24hours before sanding an painting


Gun I used

https://honda-tech.com/attachment.ph...1&d=1264301888

Sorry I took so long to reply haha

http://www.redstate.com/neil_stevens...lefacepalm.jpg

cleve 05-29-2010 09:26 PM

Re: Rustoleum+mineral spirits+HVLP gun= what ratio?
 

Originally Posted by Spawne32 (Post 42616007)

why are you still here... we have all heard that you don't like the 50 dollar job. we get it. now shut up. if you don't like it then don't comment on it. just makes you look like a post whore. some people like myself will paint certain projects with rusto or some cheap paint cus its cheap and its a project that we don't really care to much about the looks or body.

good example is a a rock crawler project of mine. i take it out in the woods every other weekend so why would i spend 200 on auto paint when i can get 2 or 3 qts of rusto for 8 bucks a piece. same with a 93 civic cx hatch im painting now. i dont care about the body. i would rather use the 150 bucks i save and spend it on something else to help the car go faster.

so it just matters what your painting and what its for. if the guy wants to paint a car with rusto let him. does it really bother you that much that people are doing this paint job? cus it sure seems to me that you are getting really butt hurt about people spraying their cars with something cheap. especially when it looks half decent.

cleve 05-29-2010 09:30 PM

Re: Rustoleum+mineral spirits+HVLP gun= what ratio?
 

Originally Posted by Spawne32 (Post 42416750)
hey cheap ass, it cost the same to spray single stage paint as it does to buy all the rustoelum and the supply's needed to actually make it look like its not shit, of course dont listen to anything I say, home depot seems like the right place to go when you want to do a professional job on your car. I knew i was gona regret buying a honda with this bullshit that goes on, i wish i bought a mustang.

then show us where you can get these prices??? cus 50 bucks is different then 100 plus. also 50 dollars is a lot of gas now a days. we don't all have money flying out our asses...

Spawne32 05-29-2010 09:30 PM

Re: Rustoleum+mineral spirits+HVLP gun= what ratio?
 
oh dont get me wrong, i have no issue with painting a rock crawler in rustoleum when its only gona get destroyed a weekend later, thats completely understandable. What annoys the ever living shit out of me is the people who try to pass it off as "professional" or "quality" paint jobs. Not only does it drag down the community as a whole, but its just plain stupid and shows a complete disregard for any sort of quality and spreads mis-information to people on what should otherwise be a sub forum for actual quality advice regarding painting a car properly.

MrHappypants 05-30-2010 09:17 AM

Re: Rustoleum+mineral spirits+HVLP gun= what ratio?
 

Originally Posted by Spawne32 (Post 42618250)
oh dont get me wrong, i have no issue with painting a rock crawler in rustoleum when its only gona get destroyed a weekend later, thats completely understandable. What annoys the ever living shit out of me is the people who try to pass it off as "professional" or "quality" paint jobs. Not only does it drag down the community as a whole, but its just plain stupid and shows a complete disregard for any sort of quality and spreads mis-information to people on what should otherwise be a sub forum for actual quality advice regarding painting a car properly.

> BS <
Your just a hater...
No one in this thread has said anything about PROFESSIONAL or QUALITY paint jobs..

Your quote really says what you think of H -T as a whole...
Quote:
Originally Posted by 599
H-T is like the SpEd class in HS.

Just FYI this is the paint section of the website so im pretty sure everyone talking about the RUSTOLEUM PAINT JOB is on topic..

If this annoys the ever living shit out of YOU then stop reading in the Threads that SAY $50 dollar paint job OR Rustoleum!

BTW There doing $50 Rustoleum Paint jobs in the Mustang forums too...

ej1 rep 05-30-2010 10:11 AM

Re: Rustoleum+mineral spirits+HVLP gun= what ratio?
 
whatever keep telling yourself that your gay 50 dollar paintjob looks good.
The reason people like us keep going into these threads is to tell people the facts.

so your justification is cause you saw it a on a mustang forum lol
yeah cause people who drive mustangs really know whats up haha

its pretty annoying that when I go into the PAINT/BODY section it is a bunch of gay rustoleum jobs

MrHappypants 05-30-2010 11:01 AM

Re: Rustoleum+mineral spirits+HVLP gun= what ratio?
 

Originally Posted by ej1 rep (Post 42620729)
whatever keep telling yourself that your gay 50 dollar paintjob looks good.
The reason people like us keep going into these threads is to tell people the facts.

so your justification is cause you saw it a on a mustang forum lol
yeah cause people who drive mustangs really know whats up haha

its pretty annoying that when I go into the PAINT/BODY section it is a bunch of gay rustoleum jobs


Hey maybe you should have read the thread so you could keep up with whats going on >> Spawn said he should have bought a Mustang << That is why Isaid they have $50 paint jobs in the mustang forums...

BTW Just because your $50 paint job didnt come out the way you wanted it dont mean you have the right to hate on everyone else!!!


"The reason people like us keep going into these threads is to tell people the facts."

WTF Facts have you posted about this? Other then you dislike rustoleum??

ej1 rep 05-31-2010 06:25 AM

Re: Rustoleum+mineral spirits+HVLP gun= what ratio?
 
Well my 50 paint job came out perfect, but its still shitty paint. Its probaly hard for people like you too understand.

FACT your going to be putting in a shit ton of labor. More than enough you to go to work and make the extra 100 dollars for a single stage paint.

FACT I hope you like sanding because your going to being doing a ton of it so it doesnt have orange peel

FACT have fun running around your car with a paint rollar trying to get every run

Im not saying dont try it if really really want to do it, imm just giving a heads up on what your in for.

Spawne32 05-31-2010 06:52 AM

Re: Rustoleum+mineral spirits+HVLP gun= what ratio?
 
that and the fact that it has no uv protection or weather protection whatsoever like automotive paint does, so in a year the car is gona look like shit and everyone will be going "wow your clear coat faded fast"

MrHappypants 05-31-2010 07:44 AM

Re: Rustoleum+mineral spirits+HVLP gun= what ratio?
 

Originally Posted by ej1 rep (Post 42626505)
Well my 50 paint job came out perfect, but its still shitty paint. Its probaly hard for people like you too understand.

FACT your going to be putting in a shit ton of labor. More than enough you to go to work and make the extra 100 dollars for a single stage paint.

FACT I hope you like sanding because your going to being doing a ton of it so it doesnt have orange peel

FACT have fun running around your car with a paint rollar trying to get every run

Im not saying dont try it if really really want to do it, imm just giving a heads up on what your in for.

These our all good FACTS!! BUT Lol... Orange peel seems to be more from the Mix of the paint you use.. I had little to no Orange peel when i did my car >< then again I sprayed the paint soo that might have had something to do with it..

My car looks ok an i still havnt sanded it ><

Single stage paint! You need a Gun/Compressor/Paint Booth for this witch pushes up your project in the 400 to 500 bucks > Thats a turbo kit allmost </ More then I payed for the car Lol


Originally Posted by Spawne32 (Post 42626622)
that and the fact that it has no uv protection or weather protection whatsoever like automotive paint does, so in a year the car is gona look like shit and everyone will be going "wow your clear coat faded fast"

Lol what clear coat this is rustoleum!

Guys I really dont know why your Flaming the thread Its cheap mail boxs paint.. We all know its not going to have a Showroom finsh or last forever..

Spawne32 what paint did you use on your Interga? Trinity 1945 ???

Spawne32 05-31-2010 09:00 AM

Re: Rustoleum+mineral spirits+HVLP gun= what ratio?
 

Originally Posted by MrHappypants (Post 42626870)
These our all good FACTS!! BUT Lol... Orange peel seems to be more from the Mix of the paint you use.. I had little to no Orange peel when i did my car >< then again I sprayed the paint soo that might have had something to do with it..

My car looks ok an i still havnt sanded it ><

Single stage paint! You need a Gun/Compressor/Paint Booth for this witch pushes up your project in the 400 to 500 bucks > Thats a turbo kit allmost </ More then I payed for the car Lol



Lol what clear coat this is rustoleum!

Guys I really dont know why your Flaming the thread Its cheap mail boxs paint.. We all know its not going to have a Showroom finsh or last forever..

Spawne32 what paint did you use on your Interga? Trinity 1945 ???


Limco basecoat nighthawk black pearl and Diamonte clear coat that retails for about 400 a gallon

holsetcivic 05-31-2010 09:23 AM

Re: Rustoleum+mineral spirits+HVLP gun= what ratio?
 
This is funny watching the "h-t know it alls" get their panties in a wad over some budget rusto paint jobs...com'n people, do you really have such a shitty life that you browse the paint and body section on h-t looking for people who dont do what you do, or dont paint their cars "the right way". if the paint job turns out shitty..so be it, it was their decision. ever heard the expression live and learn. this thread wasnt made for people to criticize...the op wanted to know the proper mix ratio...5%-15% mineral sprits mixed with rusto, just mess around with that ratio until its to your liking


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