shifty35

I know Innovative makes the mounts, but I've heard they are far from "bolt-in".

With the battery and power electronics taken out, the chassis should be sub 2000 lb with the K swap.

Spaceballsthelunchbox

I would rather have one with a D16Z6 or y8.
That is my long term goal, I just need to find an insight with a bad drivetrain.

shifty35

I would guess that an L15 (Fit engine) would be a lot easier to swap and should fit the bill pretty well.

Except the pesky DBW junk.

Spaceballsthelunchbox

How hard would it be to use OBD1 electronics and engine in there?

pancake

BISi is the man to talk about it ^

JDMCOREY

that insight is so sick i have that honda tunning

OceanStateTuning

So no one has used the Innovative mounts? They had to of made them for someone?

DNRxperformance

i have the innovative kit but havent had time to do the swap yet. ill post it up when i do it in the upcoming weeks.

crx(gator)

um, yeah, thanks...

brian g

I helped a local company here that used the Innovative Mounts. The had to be modified so the car could keep AC and ABS. The engine was to far to the right and caused problems with the ABS unit and AC lines. If you have a race car that wouldn't be a problem.

brian g

brian g

More like about 2000lbs. The battery and associated electronics weigh less than 100 lbs.

crx(gator)

so when is hasport coming out with theirs?

sohcd16

Is this going to be your new street/race car?

brian g

I'm not sure, it's such a small market. I will redesign the mounts in my Insight this summer when I change motors. I'll take another look at it and decide then.

brian g

crx(gator)

it's a small market, but it may become semi-big. im talking to ground control to convince them to make coilovers. Proparts already makes custom front and rear konis for the car.

brian g

Well that depends on the definition of (semi-) big. The 1st Gen Insight has sold a total of about 14,000 vehicles for all years while the Civic has been 200,000 to 340,000 per year since 1985. Even though the Accord has outsold the Civic there are far few people doing performance upgrades to those cars because of the people who buy them. The Insight buyer isn't typically a performance person.

That's not so say that if I don't come up with a really cool mount system I won't make it available. I'd like nothing more than an Insight for daily driving with K-series, AC, ABS and a working dash. I think I know how to make the rear suspension work on that car so I would handle as well as be quick.

brian g

redzcstandardhatch

whats the market like for dead (running-wise) insights, with useable chassis?

crx(gator)

that is understandable (small number of insights produced). but, look at the quote below. This is what's going to be happening relatively soon due to the batteries and the transmissions (2nd gear) breaking. It will be expensive to fix these two problems with limited parts available. this will make it more feasible for tuners to purchase to do a swap in. heck the insights are going for less than rusted crx's now!

also the rear suspension is cake. shocks are already made by koni, springs are made by a company in KS (hopefully gc will come on board) and a racer was able to put a mk4 jetta rear sway bar in the rear beam to really give the insight that more neutral to oversteer aspect it needs. the front brakes are able to be upgraded as well with a willwood kit and integra calipers and rotors as well.

the market should be good, once people are easily able to swap in k20s.

dkim48

http://k20a.org/forum/showthread.php?t=45244

this one seems to fit okay with the innovative mounts. s/c k24 with a/c and abs working. i would've swapped my insight but gotta save money for the baby!

Buitrex

Anyone with more info regarding this swap?

The Destroyer

http://www.tamparacing.com/forums/lh...t-project.html

Here is LHT on another Ksight.

Qfactor

Well I Guess I will be the first one to post some picture of my K24 S/C Insight.

K24A1 w/tsx pistons and Z1 head
RSX 6 Transmission
Jackson Racing S/C w 2.8" Pulley and 08-up Accord Crank Pulley
Bosch 040 Fuel Pump w/Aeroquip FPR
Skunk2 Throttle Body (recent Update)
Kpro ECU
Working ABS, Air conditioner, 06 Civic SI Navigation
S2000 gauge cluster and Steering Wheel
Innovative mounts
Total weight 1975 lbs. w/about 3 gallons of fuel















and one with my old Racing Hart Tuners...

acake em1

thats prolly the most sleeperish car ever!... how much power do u make with that?

darkestfenix

thats freakin awesome

robs1stcrx

sleeper