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Old 04-23-2003, 09:56 AM
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Default Why can't I check my CEL's?

When I check them.....it doesn't give me anything.

But I'm bound to be throwing some since I don't have the IABs, or the EGR system hooked up yet.

Am I doing something wrong?

I read that it's supposed to be a blue plug by the glove box, inside a green rubber cover.

Well, I've got a green rubber cover..but i've got two different plugs in it, and neither one of them are blue.

So I tried it with both of them...and nothing.

Maybe I'm just a moron?
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Default Re: Why can't I check my CEL's? (hot_EG)

Does the one plug have 2 wires and the other 3 wires. If so use the 2 wire plug and jump the wires. Also, do it while the car is running. Some codes will only read when the car is running.
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Default Re: Why can't I check my CEL's? (hot_EG)

Was your CEL on while the motor was running?

IAB doesn't throw a codes, and EGR doesn't throw a code unless you're driving up a hill

let me know
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Default Re: Why can't I check my CEL's? (poison)

Yep, CEL is on while car is running/driving.

Both of the plugs have only two wires.

One plug has solid light blue, and then green/white. The other plug has solid brown, and then green/white.

Which one should it be?
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Default Re: Why can't I check my CEL's? (hot_EG)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hot_EG &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yep, CEL is on while car is running/driving.

Both of the plugs have only two wires.

One plug has solid light blue, and then green/white. The other plug has solid brown, and then green/white.

Which one should it be? </TD></TR></TABLE>should be the brown, green/white plug.
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Default Re: Why can't I check my CEL's? (jmm96gsr)

hmmm...well, I did it again.

It still isn't showing me anything.

But I've got CEL's while driving.

WTF am I going to do? I can't pass emissions with a CEL, but if it's not giving me any codes how am I to fix it?
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Default Re: Why can't I check my CEL's? (hot_EG)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hot_EG &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hmmm...well, I did it again.

It still isn't showing me anything.

But I've got CEL's while driving.

WTF am I going to do? I can't pass emissions with a CEL, but if it's not giving me any codes how am I to fix it? </TD></TR></TABLE>

And you have a paperclip bent into a U shape with one end plugged into the brown wire pinout and othe other into the green/wht pinout?

Plug that in, then put the car onto the ON switch, and it should blink.
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Default Re: Why can't I check my CEL's? (poison)

yep, that's exactly what I'm doing....but then the CEL doesn't flash/blink....nothing.
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Default Re: Why can't I check my CEL's? (hot_EG)

dude if the CEL isnt on when driving, you can get a code when you try to pull them.

the IAB's dont throw a CEL

and EGR rarley throws a CEL
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Kamin &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">dude if the CEL isnt on when driving, you can get a code when you try to pull them.

the IAB's dont throw a CEL

and EGR rarley throws a CEL</TD></TR></TABLE>

No he said he is throwing codes while driving.

Funny thing is I am having the same problem, I cant pull my codes either on my h22 wierd stuff. Hopefully someone can help both of us. So it goes
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my bad, missed that part
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Default Re: Why can't I check my CEL's? (Kamin)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Kamin &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">my bad, missed that part </TD></TR></TABLE>

We all make mistakes, so do you know why the codes cant be pulled, cuz I am having the same issue here.
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Default Re: Why can't I check my CEL's? (junglerunna02)

ive heard of that problem before but have never seen a way around it

the ecu *SHOULD* store the codes

just reset the ecu everytime it wont store the code.


the only thing it dosent store that i know of are "random misfires"
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Default Re: Why can't I check my CEL's? (Kamin)

man this is frustrating

I've gotta get my car inspected soon, but it won't pass at all if the CEL is on!
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Default Re: Why can't I check my CEL's? (hot_EG)

Yeah I dont know either man, Ive tried with the car running and with the car off and still couldnt pull codes. The light would just go out instead of blink.
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Default Re: Why can't I check my CEL's? (junglerunna02)

yeah that's exactly what it's doing! It just goes out...it's on for about 2 seconds (while the other dummy lights come on), then just off (along with the other dummy lights) and nothing.

Is there anyway I can keep the CEL from coming on?

The new law here is that if you've got a CEL on, you don't pass...period. But I've gotta get this thing passed so I can have a ride!
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Default Re: Why can't I check my CEL's? (hot_EG)

There is def a way to just unplug the cel for time being so you can pass inspection. I remember reading it somehwere but dont remember how to do it.
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Default Re: Why can't I check my CEL's? (junglerunna02)

okay, so I finally got it!

For some reason the FIVE different paperclips I was using wouldn't work...so I tried a piece of wire (which I guess I should have done in the 1st place)

I got 36 and 41.

Apparently 36 isn't a code....but I've checked, double checked, and even had my brother check.

Anybody know?

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Default Re: Why can't I check my CEL's? (hot_EG)

So you got it to work with a piece of wire you say, I have yet to try it hopefully that will work. I dont know what to tell you about code 36 Ill check my helms later if you want.
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Default Re: Why can't I check my CEL's? (junglerunna02)

yeah...the elusive code 36.

I was told it's only on 4ws JDM P13 ECU's...it was a traction control system, only on the 4plug ECU.

Problem with that though, is I just read about a guy that threw it on a USDM B17 swap, and several others doing b16 swaps.

I was also told that it's a 'ghost code', and won't throw a CEL. That it only shows up when you're checking for codes.

I can't find anything for sure on it.
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Default Re: Why can't I check my CEL's? (hot_EG)

The first time I tried pulling my codes with a paperclip didn't work, went with a piece of wire, worked.
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