Go n 4 10s

iTrader: (1)

Why is there nothing on here about H23's?????? And dont say "Try the prelude forum dumbass!!!"
It is going in my Eg, thats why I post it here!!! Has anyone done this? Whats so bad about it in a civic??????

T"u"Rtle

Who said there's anything bad about this motor?? But to get the best of all worlds get the H22. Big Displacement and power and that mad ol VTAKKK. I have an H22 in my EG hatch and I love it.

Luserkid

Its all torque, theres no top end to it. Perfect if you want to turn your civic into a tow car.

HATCHingMN

NO VTEC is the problem
2nd is the weight, it's too heavy on a lighter car.
3rd H22 VTEC is better

1QuikSOHCZC

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Luserkid &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Its all torque, theres no top end to it. Perfect if you want to turn your civic into a tow car. </TD></TR></TABLE>

really? damn my buddies tow car( 94 Eg w/H23) running 14.000 3000ft above sea level could prolly tow a house then? i dont know what u mean no top end, his car feels like it pulls nice. jus i/e on H23

Go n 4 10s

iTrader: (1)

Well the reason why I said..."BAD" is B/C no one talks about it, nor does it on here??? I am getting the whols swap for 400.00 everything but mounts so I figured what the hell right????

Go n 4 10s

iTrader: (1)

Sorry, there was some topic on here about a guy that had one in a gutted Eg with a 75 shot and ran like 12.5 or something to that nature BS????? Or real????

Go n 4 10s

iTrader: (1)

How much heavier is it then a H22???? The H23 Prelude is lighter then the H22!!!!

SicilianSpeed42

Hes talking about the weight of a H series compared to a D....H22/H23s are alot heavier than the stocker, but worth it for the added power of the H22 and not so much for the H23

blkhatch92

frankenstien

Go n 4 10s

iTrader: (1)

well If you think about torque in a race think about this....
H22=158 TQ
H23=156 TQ
So how is it way slower????

s13browe

main reason is aftermarket not as much for h23. plus no vtec. the car wont handle well and also will get beat by a b16 swap that will handle good...but it is cheaper...

Good ol' Screwtape

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i dont know what u mean no top end, his car feels like it pulls nice. jus i/e on H23</TD></TR></TABLE>

"Feels" like it pulls nice? That doesn't cut it, you should know better. Butt-dyno doesn't count. Take it to a real dyno, then post up the plots. Then tell us it has plenty of top end.

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iTrader: (1)

All im sayin is its different, its cheap And I doubt a B16 Hatch will beat it, I dont know where you guys live but here in Fl the best I have seen a B16 hatch with full interior and bolt on's do is a 14.8!!!!!! And we just put a GSR in a hatch with I,H,E and it pulled a 14.6 at 93 MPH???? So your tellin me a fully gutted hatch with a H23 with bolt ons wont break a 14 sec run....... DOUBT IT!!!!!!!!!

Tatakai

i pulled on an EK hatch w/ H23 i/h/e.. in my stock 4dr DA

Go n 4 10s

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oh well I will find out the easy way or the hard way build pics are coming soon......

Mad Vtack

just a quick question. you asked why people dont talk about the h23 on the forum well the answer is its to heavy and no vtec. but every time some one trys to explain it to you, you just shun them and ignore what they say and keep rambling on about how its good. whats the point of asking for help and knowledge if your not going to listen to what people are telling you!?

and another thing i say go with the h23 it sounds like a good deal but just know its not as good as a h22 and never will be.

92hatch420

So your tellin me a fully gutted hatch with a H23 with bolt ons wont break a 14 sec run....... - Go n 4 10s-

when did anybody tell you that ??????? i didnt see it posted anywhere

mwieczorek43

It's been said. They're a little heavy and there's no vtec. But, slap an h22 head on it later down the road and voila! Plus the H-series aren't really that heavy. Search for a real weight comparison, it's like 75lbs or something like that...

$500 is a pretty good deal, but you still have to install it. And judging by this thread, I'd guess you won't be doing the work. This isn't just a drop-in and go play type of swap. My quess for people not doing this swap more often is b/c of the modifications needed to install it, and if you're doing all this work, you might as-well get the better engine... (and an H22 can be had for like $1000-1500 around my area).

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B/c a b16 swap is sooo fast. The only reason a b16 would even keep-up is due to the tranny. If you had those same gears on an h23, I'd be willing to put money down that the h23 would smoke a b16 all day.

Vero

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Go n 4 10s &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Why is there nothing on here about H23's?????? And dont say "Try the prelude forum dumbass!!!"
It is going in my Eg, thats why I post it here!!! Has anyone done this? Whats so bad about it in a civic??????</TD></TR></TABLE>

Try the hybrid forum dumbass. Not the prelude, not the civic. This is about Stock Civic's and SOHC/b16 motor technical help.

And guys, its about 40 lbs difference. 6 in trannies, 29 in short blocks. Plus head.
so leave weight out of it.

h23 has a no vtec
h23 has a worse trans if I remember
h23 has worse internals if I remember
h22 is cheap enough as it is
H2B is sweet.

Go n 4 10s

iTrader: (1)

Thats all you guys want to talk about A stock 100 Hp D series Wow and a stock over rated B series The reason why I "shun" them IS B/C The people talkin about how bad it is, are the ones who dont know anyone who has done it, why do you think something that is different is so wrong ???? And try the Hibrid forum Dumbass??? Now I know why people bitch more on here then offer help!!!! Thanx

egvtec

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Heck yes H22 in eg

mwieczorek43

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Go n 4 10s &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Now I know why people bitch more on here then offer help!!!!</TD></TR></TABLE>

You're the one that began your thread w/ this:

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Which is why he wrote this (he's right by the way):

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Vero &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Try the hybrid forum dumbass.</TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Go n 4 10s &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">...stock 100 Hp D series Wow and a stock over rated B series The reason why I "shun" them IS B/C The people talkin about how bad it is, are the ones who dont know anyone who has done it, why do you think something that is different is so wrong ???? And try the Hibrid forum Dumbass??? Now I know why people bitch more on here then offer help!!!! Thanx</TD></TR></TABLE>

Are you serious? No one in here mentioned the d vs b vs h battle what so ever. No one said the h23 was bad, nor do we think different is bad (there are many f and h series around). You asked why you hear nothing about the h23... we answered you and you get all upset! Why do you think the h23 can be had for so cheap? B/c there are better alternatives.

And for the record, I've got a buddy that had an h23vtec. He loved-it, but in the end he could have gotten the same results from an h22 for nearly the same amount of coin, but half the effort. Don't get upset b/c we answered your question.

Go n 4 10s

iTrader: (1)

All I wanted was info on who has done it and whether it was good or bad... Not a lecture on how much the H22 is better nor on how The H23 is just crap... A simple "Its got power but not worth it would have worked" Thanx

mwieczorek43

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Go n 4 10s &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">All I wanted was info on whether it was good or bad...</TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Go n 4 10s &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">...nor on how The H23 is just crap... Thanx</TD></TR></TABLE>

You're killing me smalls! Read what you just wrote. You ask, but don't want an answer??

Basically what you're saying is, you want a yes or no, but don't want to know the reason we said no.