SpoonSportsJunkie

I bought the motor! MY GOAL is NORMAL Aspiration
Was considering B20vtec w/ b17a crank... But it is very involved... Id like a B18c1..if anyone wants my b17a crank and block..But If I am keeping the b17a, it will need boring and honing.. Sleeving is too expen$ive for me!
W/ the oversized ctr pistons.. and type r cams.. it should be pretty fast!


[Modified by SpoonFanatic, 5:27 PM 9/27/2002]

4doorsi

why not by a b18 and get more out of it in the long run and not wast the money on the b17 it wont even amont to what a b18 can amont to and in vest in an eldabrock intake manifold there provin to add 41 horse to a b18 or to a b16

jetli6969

show me where the edelbrock intake manifold adds 41 hp on an NA b18 or b16...

raene

No doubt...

turbo_ef9

hehe.. it gained 41whp on a turbo motor.. the JG manifold gained like 11whp to a itr motor.. its in the new.....? turbo mag.

JeffS

Put down the Super Street and come back to the real world...

Kamin

it would go good in a golf cart
thats about it.

Jackson

go ctr pistons and head work, keep the b17 block. dont ruin two blocks to make one. keep it 1.7 and use ctr pistons, have a 11.4:1 compression. And yes, the itr manifold will bolt up to the b17 head, good choice.

CRX_VTEC

Yeah... if your boostin 28PSI or somethin!!!!!! Try putting that thing on your engine and see if you get even 5HP.

Doctor CorteZ

did you even bother to read the WHOLE sentence?

41 hp gained on NA - do you smoke crack ?

CRX_VTEC

I guess he forgot the (.)....he really meant 4.1?????

SpoonSportsJunkie

t paying attention to my key phrase "normal aspirated" and I also Want to stay oem completely internal
Also I can get a b17a block and head w/ manifolds for around 450. so Therefore I don't want to buy a b18 for 3,300

fowler!

I'd say buy it...

Mos def worth the money.

SpoonSportsJunkie

yep 41 hp w/ a big
turbo..maybe. ?
having a
motor w/ all Oem internals is cool. That way when you beat a
Cocky V8 driver, You can truthfully say its a stock honda N/A
motor!!!! Just for an extra slap in his arrogant face "wappaaa!"


[Modified by SpoonFanatic, 10:20 PM 9/22/2002]

SkyeC

Well if you beat a cocky v8 driver with a b17a then he really doesn't have much to be cocky about now does he?

SpoonSportsJunkie

How Involved is the Hybrid w/ B17a 's Crank into the B20B (Jdm vtec b20?)???
It would seem that this setup would give ample Torque, midrange, and high rpm power due to its rod ratio. A b20 peaks lower than an ITR or CTR. So by destroking it, one can have the best of both worlds. Has anyone out there done this w/ the Jdm vtec b20 block before...How dificult? If it is a pain in the kiester and tons of $$$ I will just bore my b17a or swap for a b18c1 if someone will trade me?

riceboy

SpoonFanatic , the benefit of the B17A crank in the B18A/B-B28B/Z is that with custom slightly longer rods and relocated piston pins in a B20 block you can get a 1.*L witha 1.74 or 1.76 rod ratio or something like that, with LS rods and PR3 pistons your just under stock deck clearance at TDC. This is a great swap witha flat torque curve that is perfect for road racing, is it a real world street motor? No Worth the time on a street car? No.

Buy the B17 and do one of two things, boost it @9 psi, or save it as a collectors item and sell it in ten years when its the last one in existance.

SpoonSportsJunkie

I heard that You can drop B17a crank and rods into the B20 from the japanese microvan (Already Vtec) and you get 1.9L w/ good r/s . If that also involves a whole lot of drama w/ crank and rod bearings... and a bunch of gaskets and seals other than the ones that I have in my b17a gasket set, then this does not appeal to me.. .too much extra mula right now.. maybe some day...

Jackson

What "jdm vtec" b20 block? I dont think 81mm pistons will do so good in an 84mm block bore.

SpoonSportsJunkie

I hear there is a vehicle called an "smx microvan" in japan made by honda and it runs a 2.0lvtec.... There is a b20b and b20z ... I believe there was a white ek that had a itr cylinder head a 2.0l vtec bottom end and was turbo. I read and saw this in either supperstreet, import tuner, or turbo magazine...
It made the statement of a b20 that was a vtec block from the factor

riceboy

B17A1 crank in either B20B or Z results in 1.8 liters of displacement. You would use either custom rods or LS rods but not be at zero deck clearance. as far as bearings go I've heard of using B20 mains and B17Arod bearings, I'm not sure though, when you build a motro you have to buy bearings, so why would you consider it a hassle?

SpoonSportsJunkie

Hastle.. because its been a long buildup and I am mentaly , emotionally , and financially worn out...
I apreciate all the advice... I came to my sense.. that I can settle for b17a bored and honed block...

dohcsideSi

b17 crank in a b20 is a waste of money...and it's not a 1.9lt....if you want to up the displacement send you block to goden eagle for some 84mm sleeves or drop a gsr or ls crank in it...although you will need custom rods..

StorminMatt

For a really cool hybrid, use a 1988 CRX HF, 1988 CRX DX, or 1989 CRX HF. All of these cars are SUPER light. Except for 1984-1987 carbed CRX's (which are a pain to do swaps on), there is nothing lighter to drop this motor into. This includes the 1G CRX SI (which is heavier). Get a mount kit, rewire your car to use the P61 B17A ECU, and build yourself one of the fastest Hondas on the street.


[Modified by StorminMatt, 4:28 AM 9/27/2002]

Jackson

You are a day late and a dollar short guy. He meant with the motor.