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Old 05-30-2007, 12:56 PM
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I am really confused now.

After failing BAR 5 times, I am really stumped.

first time was for wrong cat, and visual issues.
second time for emissions.
third time for emissions.
fourth time for emissions.

Since then i have changed out my cat with autosound cat, o2 sensor, distrubitor cap, iridium spark plugs, ngk blue spark plug wires, seafoamed, spoon low temp t-stat and mugen low temp thermoswitch. ran SMOG tests with 92 octane and SMOG tests with 100 octane.

Any ideas how i can finally make it pass?

latest numbers are
15mph -->Failed
HC -> 136
CO -> 0.49
NOx -> 1840

25mph -->Passed
HC ->54
CO -> 0.10
NOx -> 231
Old 05-30-2007, 03:04 PM
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After another dose of seafoam.

new numbers:

15mph -->Failed
HC -> 106
CO -> 0.31
NO -> 911

25mph -->passed
HC -> 54
CO -> 0.10
NO -> 260

just gonna give up and throw a hondata s300 and lean the shiet out of it.
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Default Re: still failing BAR with JDM GSR Swap (vietfella)

Get rid of the low temp t-stat. If the ECU never gets out of open loop, you'll run rich. Run the correct octane and make sure your timing is right. What ECU are you using?
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running stock obd1 p72
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Default Re: still failing BAR with JDM GSR Swap (vietfella)

Ditto on the t-stat. Lower temps = more fuel = higher HC's.

Use stock for the tests.
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What kind of tranny you running? Sometimes using a different tranny than the engine it is made for can throw off the speeds cause of the different gearing. Best thing to do is get a Hondata S100 and get a partial and full throttle tune. That should clean things up if it the gearing that is throwing your smog readings off.
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Default Re: still failing BAR with JDM GSR Swap (jed1717)

The lower the octane, the quicker it burns. Run 89, or 87 if it doesn't ping. A gsr engine for smog is 16 +- 2 degrees BTDC. Set it to 14, and run 89 octane and that should drop your results low enough to pass.


BTW, I passed BAR with a B16 in my 88 CRX. I ran 87 octane, had my timming set at 14 degrees BTDC, and was using a 00 SI cat with the 02 bung plugged and installed upside down to bolt up, and still passed. The CAT had 45k miles on it...


Also, I passed the first time.
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