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Old 02-20-2019, 05:20 PM
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To start off I'm swapping a z6 head onto my d15b7, everything on the head is from a z6 minus the dizzy and exhaust manifold, running on a stock p28 the cam gear is set 4 degrees advanced it will crank but not fire up, I smell fuel, I have msd ignition wires which do spark, new plugs, new gaskets, I'm not sure if I'm having a timing issue cause it sounds like it wants to start but also when I'm cranking, the ground from the transmission to the frame rail smokes on the tranny
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Old 02-20-2019, 05:23 PM
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Remove the battery before your car catches on fire.

Check your wiring because something is grounding out, which likely is a power wire.
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Old 02-20-2019, 05:30 PM
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I could assume that would also make my car not start correct?
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Old 02-21-2019, 02:41 AM
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YES, correct.
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Old 02-21-2019, 11:30 AM
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So I fixed my smokey ground by adding the valve cover ground and cleaning up the other two but now I'm still stuck with a car that will crank but won't start, I haven't added the two wires from the ECU to the harness mount for the v-tech but I don't think that would cause it to not start
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Old 02-21-2019, 11:48 AM
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Also I swapped my original head back on and was able to get it running aside from some timing issues
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Old 02-21-2019, 06:01 PM
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are you using a D16z6 timing belt? If not, that is your issue.
D16z6 -- 104 teeth
D15B7 -- 106 teeth
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Old 02-21-2019, 06:05 PM
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Yes I'm using the belt for a z6 and an adjustable cam gear with 4 degrees of advance timing
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did you set the cam gear back to "0" when the motor is aligned to TDC??? You CANNOT set TDC with advance/retard timing
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Old 02-21-2019, 06:52 PM
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Not sure what you mean by "0" but I set it to were cylinder 1 all valves are closed at TDC and when I turn the crank clockwise the exhaust valves open next then the intake and so on
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Oh ok 0 as in degrees, yes I set TDC at 0 then adjusted the gear 4 degrees adnavced
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Old 02-22-2019, 02:45 AM
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You sure the cam gear was set to TDC? The left and right marks on the sprocket ARE NOT SUPPOSED to be parallel with the cylinder head.
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Old 02-22-2019, 08:13 AM
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You sure the cam gear was set to TDC? The left and right marks on the sprocket ARE NOT SUPPOSED to be parallel with the cylinder head.
yes I counted the teeth and copied the marks from the z6 gear and transferred them onto the adjustable one, when I line up the lines to the back of the timing belt cover the valves for cylinder #1 are all closed then when I turn the crank clockwise the exhaust valves open next, then the intake. Should it be the other way around?
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Old 02-22-2019, 12:12 PM
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Also when I try cranking the engine there will be puffs of black smoke coming from the exhaust ports on the head
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Old 02-22-2019, 02:49 PM
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Update: I was able to get the engine to start, my problem was the distributor rotor wasn't lined up with the pin for cylinder #1 at TDC now my only concern is an agressive rocking from the motor when I turn the car off
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