fkncivic

what are you guys' thoughts on these motors i have the chance to do either one. also which one would be better with a turbo.

WAFFLES

do a god damn search!!!! I swear that the hybrid forum gets this question asked literally once a week. If your too lazy to search the topic then get off of this site. Part of the learning process is searching and doing your own research!

Bleed Black

Simmer.

civictom

Down


Now


Simmer Down Now!

WAFFLES

silence newbie! i will say what should be said!


[Modified by WAFFLES, 1:04 PM 2/12/2002]

fkncivic

you know i really thought that this was a discussion forum and i wanted the views of the people on here i already did a search but wanted some first hand info so if yo dont want to help or have anything humane to say then dont resond to my damn post.

Bleed Black

Preach on ***!

JV

You guys just got to understand that some of the people that have been on here a long time get sick of seeing the same ?'s over and over and over. So once in a while they get pissed. Don't take it personally. Just make sure you search before you ask any questions and nobody will give you any crap.

Edit- Search archived topics for "lsvtec or b18c" It returns alot of results.


[Modified by JV, 8:14 PM 2/12/2002]

Kamin

hey before you try flaming
press your caps lock button, ***.

Kamin

dude thats not even coherent
please go away.

JV

See this is what happens when 8 year olds have computers.

hybridreams

***In a hatchback*** the low 14s to high 13s you speak of with built LS/VTEC are a walk in the park for a B18C1 (hits low 14's stock). LS/VTEC is less reliable and the guys that can't afford buying and building up a B18C1 are the ones that have it. Honestly, don't be cheap, go for the B18C1 if you want serious times and good reliability.


[Modified by hybridreams, 2:02 PM 2/14/2002]

JeffS

Maybe you should go back and look at the dumbass answers posted to MOST of the questions in this forum. On the rare occasions that someone does provide some useful information, it's usually accompanied by 3 contradicting posts by other posters.

The problem seems to be that very few actually know what they're talking about. Everyone else is just pretending... the "trial and error" people, and the people who start (or try to) their engines with half the connectors hooked up, just to see if they can are the ones I'm talking about the most. The people who just KNOW how to do it aren't here, or aren't posting...

hybridreams

And you know this how?

brainwo

Research on http://www.crvtec.com

hybridreams

noooooooo, the subject said ls frankenstein/b18c1, get the b20 out of here

CRX_VTEC

How do you figure that? LS/VTEC cost just as much to build as a B18C!!!!!!!!

hybridreams

List prices please

WAFFLES

First off let me repost that this same ******* questoin IS asked once a week . If your little whinney newbie *** can't use a search than get off of your computer and go jump in front of a moving school bus because your an idiot and should not be living.

Now if you insist on arguing with me than fine, but your ignorance is being proved everytime you speak. I can't even list a good answer to this because we(meaning the rest of honda-tech) have answered this question a million freaking times.


And one last comment...hybridreams...I have been reading almost all of your responses and you are an uniformed, unknowing, mouthy little ****. Please remove your head from your *** and do some research.

Don't even bother with responding back to this with a flame or anything else because I am done with this thread and will not be reading anymore of your stupidass responses. I am not a know-it-all, just very annoyed that everyone else seems to be(a know-it-all) or can't use a search.

bruthaboost

I have a ls/vtec and I'll be turbo hopefully soon (spring break maybe). Reliability? Not at issue. I think you should think about where you want to go with your motor. If you're aiming for 330+ whp, don't expect factory longevity. Be exhaultant if you get 75k out of it. I'm not going to beat the **** out of it, but I'll be happy it lasts 60k.

Spade

First off your an idiot!

Second the people who know what there talking about aren't posting for the simple GOD DAMN ******* FACT that it has been asked and answered too many times!!!

**** OFF!!!!

hybridreams

Hey thanks WAFFLES. Let me first start off by saying that I am correct in stating as a fact that an LS/VTEC is not as reliable as a B18C1 would be, FI or NA. Second, I was actually interested in the LS/VTEC frankenstein awhile ago because the parts in total came out a lot cheaper than a good B18C1...maybe I was getting bad estimates or really good deals...who knows? Bottom line, my post was my two cents, don't like it? Fine. Keep the BS to yourself. And don't kid yourself WAFFLES because I know you're reading this.

Spade

WAFFLES may not be reading this but I am.....well was as in I don't feel like wasting my time with fools either.

Do a search and don't listen to people who say it isn't reliable. If you build the LS or the CRV correctly it is reliable.

hybridreams

AAAAAAARGH!!! I never said it isn't reliable PERIOD. I said it isn't AS reliable as a B18C1 is.

CRX_VTEC

It annoying to see people jump on the bandwagon and say things they dont research themselves. Just because you "hear" people say its not reliable doesnt mean you should also preach the same scripts. There are a few poeple here that claim the "Tornado" makes 25HP to their honda.. will you also agree to that??!!!

How can you compare apples and oranges anyway? Why dont you build a high compression GSR with all the mods and see how much of a "low maintainance" this motor is!!

ANY motor modified beyond factory will require maintainance and tuning.
So to you.. a LS/VTEC is less reliable.. so you think a B18C with 12+compression and agressive cams will be maintainance free and last 120K miles or more?? Stop dreaming man.. a B18C built will require JUST AS MUCH tuning as a LS/VTEC!! PERIOD!!!!