Evil-EK

Hey guys I have a 96-98 hatch that is currently in the body shop getting some love. I have a H22 to install in the car but would really like all of your opinions on the K20.
Money is not a factor at the moment due to the fact of I can buy a Type-S swap for around 2800 and I am pretty sure I could sell my H22 swap for close to that.

Well what do you guys think?

IHateJDM

i hate to say it but for that price, K20 makes far more sense.

Evil-EK

I am just curious what kind of wiring mods and what computer I will have to use.

Adam.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BigBlockH22atch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I am just curious what kind of wiring mods and what computer I will have to use.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I know very little about the swap, but from what I do know you will need either a JDM ecu, or hondata with K-Pro. All of the USDM ecu's have an immobilizer that will prevent you from using them.

I would be split. From what I nkow about the k-series, they are very bad on keeping oil in the head. It depends on what kind of racing you are talking about.

IHateJDM

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1242131

check out that thread. that's a buddy of mine who did a clean as K20 in eg swap, with a ton of pics and details.

Evil-EK

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DarkKnight1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I know very little about the swap, but from what I do know you will need either a JDM ecu, or hondata with K-Pro. All of the USDM ecu's have an immobilizer that will prevent you from using them.

I would be split. From what I nkow about the k-series, they are very bad on keeping oil in the head. It depends on what kind of racing you are talking about.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I have heard that the k motors are not really the best choice for a boosted application. The head flows good but like you stated they have a oiling issue that has yet to be addressed.


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by IHateJDM &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1242131

check out that thread. that's a buddy of mine who did a clean as K20 in eg swap, with a ton of pics and details.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Thanks for the link.

skunked

I'm not jumping on the K wagon yet but there are some quick K's around. Look at then 9 second pro na cars, most are K with the exception of a couple and I know one is going from the H to the K for 2006.

Turbogixxer

Honsetly, That cheap is cheap for a k-series, but you have to look at other costs (mounts, spare parts, etc). You will get in to trouble with the motor, k-series parts are not the cheapest.

happyb16xrc

keep the H, i hate i-vtec

RotiEatter

iTrader: (1)

they both suck

go b16

**** man, i miss the thread

Evil-EK

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RotiEatter &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">they both suck

go b16

**** man, i miss the thread </TD></TR></TABLE>

I tried the B16 route and it just didn't work out for me. LOL
Seems like I blow damn near everything I have up......
I miss the good ol 356 pages of pure unadulterated bull **** too.

Evil-EK

wow this sucks. it just aint the same without the 350 something pages of jokes and bullshit.

IHateJDM

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BigBlockH22atch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">wow this sucks. it just aint the same without the 350 something pages of jokes and bullshit.</TD></TR></TABLE>

no ****. lets just all invade the next B vs H thread in the hybrid forum and take it over .

Evil-EK

trust me I have been looking for a good thread to PIRATE!!! YARRRRR!!

IHateJDM

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BigBlockH22atch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">trust me I have been looking for a good thread to PIRATE!!! YARRRRR!!</TD></TR></TABLE>

https://honda-tech.com/zeropost?cmd=fshow&id=18

Evil-EK

YARRRRRR!!!! THANK YOU MATEY!!

hondaZvic

hey, count me in. ahhahahah


oh yeah.. to answer the question.. i say K.

hondaZvic

hey bigblock,

go here:
https://honda-tech.com/zero...12836

TheMachine707

i say k, i gotta few folks with dem dere in the low 11s

Evil-EK

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hondaZvic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hey bigblock,

go here:
https://honda-tech.com/zero...12836</TD></TR></TABLE>

That is a lot of info in one post. LOL

TrueZen

I'm biased(see sig), but I vote for K. Basic engine mods will net you more hp than the B and H series. Plus, the Type S or Type R six-speeds transmissions are awesome(if you go with the Type S, just make sure to get an LSD).

DarkKnight1 is right to ask exactly what kind of racing you'll be doing. Honestly if it's drag, I would keep my vote on the K if you're sticking to NA. But if boost is your poison then I'll have to switch to H. If it's roadracing at all, it's definatey K.

happyb16xrc, why the hate for i-vtec? You're not just hating on that damn-economy i-vtec(K20A3) are you?

LongBeachEP3

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TrueZen &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm biased(see sig), but I vote for K. Basic engine mods will net you more hp than the B and H series. Plus, the Type S or Type R six-speeds transmissions are awesome(if you go with the Type S, just make sure to get an LSD).

DarkKnight1 is right to ask exactly what kind of racing you'll be doing. Honestly if it's drag, I would keep my vote on the K if you're sticking to NA. But if boost is your poison then I'll have to switch to H. If it's roadracing at all, it's definatey K.

happyb16xrc, why the hate for i-vtec? You're not just hating on that damn-economy i-vtec(K20A3) are you?</TD></TR></TABLE>

hey hey now i got that damned k20a3 waitin to burn your asses haha jk its slow alright but hey boost is pretty good for it. Pretty good numbers i seen with the a3

Evil-EK

I really like the k motors but from experience I really really like the H motors. They are pretty abundant, reasonably cheap, and easy to work on. I know the k puts down pretty good power but hell my h22a1 put down 193 at the wheels with nothing but a header and a chipped p28. I cant really argue with those numbers.

Adam.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TrueZen &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm biased(see sig), but I vote for K. Basic engine mods will net you more hp than the B and H series. Plus, the Type S or Type R six-speeds transmissions are awesome(if you go with the Type S, just make sure to get an LSD).

DarkKnight1 is right to ask exactly what kind of racing you'll be doing. Honestly if it's drag, I would keep my vote on the K if you're sticking to NA. But if boost is your poison then I'll have to switch to H. If it's roadracing at all, it's definatey K.

happyb16xrc, why the hate for i-vtec? You're not just hating on that damn-economy i-vtec(K20A3) are you?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I understand your bias, but I would not go with a k-series for road racing. Unless you have a limitless supply of money to replace them. All I hear is about how they are terrible at keep oiled, and in a road race aspect, you'll be replacing that motor all the time.

H-Series w/ GSR Tranny w/ LSD would be my choice. Or at the very least, a high FD for the H-series tranny.

skunked

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TrueZen &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm biased(see sig), but I vote for K. Basic engine mods will net you more hp than the B and H series. Plus, the Type S or Type R six-speeds transmissions are awesome(if you go with the Type S, just make sure to get an LSD).

DarkKnight1 is right to ask exactly what kind of racing you'll be doing. Honestly if it's drag, I would keep my vote on the K if you're sticking to NA. But if boost is your poison then I'll have to switch to H. If it's roadracing at all, it's definatey K.

happyb16xrc, why the hate for i-vtec? You're not just hating on that damn-economy i-vtec(K20A3) are you?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I find this funny because the 6 speeds suck for drag. Both of my friends swapped out their six speeds for 5 speeds.

Bang for the buck the H kicks ***.