alien

what do you guys think its worth?? i really have a hard time deciding.. i need to know.. i mean whats a good price for a JDM and whats a good price for USDM.. i wanna buy one but i dont know what to do ... how much better is the JDM over USDM

EK79

B18C1 (or JDM B18C)
These come out of an Integra GSR.

Pros
Good Hp and TQ numbers (170, 121 ft/lbs respectively)
DOHC VTEC
Tons of potential
High revving

Cons
Expensive
Becoming moreso as people keep scooping them up
Slighty longer tranny than the ITR and B16

B18C5 (or JDM B18C)
This is found in the Integra Type-R. IMHO this is the best swap for a Civic.

Pros
GREAT HP and TQ numbers (195 and 134 ft/lbs)
High revving
Hand built motor from Honda
Optional factory LSD
Best transmission for a B series from the factory
Red valve cover

Cons
EXPENSIVE
If JDM ITR is used,(the 36mm axle 32mm hub problems occur)

hope this helps you decide

alien

still does not... USDM TYPE R ENGINE or JDM TYPE R ENGINE?

ChicagoMike

JDM, higher compression!

alien

that helps.. is it worth payin 1000 bucks more?? or 700 hunderd?

ChicagoMike

IMHO yes!!!

FalkenSiR

Good luck finding a JDM B18C5

MR_Ek4

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x2 lol.

usdm FTW

DohcSide

there about the same price. check out Hmotorsonline.com

Archidictus

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A.) there's no such thing as a JDM B18C5.

B.) who gives a ****? You won't notice the difference between the two so just get whatever's cheaper.

alien

i should rephrase that jdm b18c5 .. jdm type r engine ) haha.. so i wont notice the differance? so that means go with the usdm?

rMak

if cops are an issue here, then you should go with usdm. easier to ref, since the jdm is illiegal either way

ChicagoMike

Dude, get the JDM B18C(5)
You'll be happy with that, I got the same one and love it.

civictildeath

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couldnt he just bolt up like a B16 tranny so there isnt this conflict and save some cash in the process

DelSolMarine

what car u tryin to do ur swap in?

.Radical_Edward.

Hmotors would be cool to get your paws on a JDM B18C. If you can get it for cheaper though a USDM B18C5 wouldn't dissapoint you either.

JesSi

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couldnt he just bolt up like a B16 tranny so there isnt this conflict and save some cash in the process</TD></TR></TABLE>

Can someone explain the axle/hub problem a bit more? Thanks...

Archidictus

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Diameter/spline count difference makes certian axle/hub combinations unworkable. Without the central hub assembly from a vehicle that comes with the 36mm R-splined axle ends, you can't use the stock Civic hub journals.

CBEengineering

i learned it the other day
just use b16 or gsr axles

hehe the inners are the same (didnt know that the other day) yay for me

alien

b18c or b18c5 is gonna be goin in a 99 CIVIC Si

http://www.northwestvansales.c...a.jpg

alien

"Can someone explain the axle/hub problem a bit more? Thanks..."


now this is tripin me out.. i dont want no problems once that motor is in.. use b16 axels to fix the prob? someone up mentioned that

Slopoke

Just go with which ever one is cheaper. If they are the same price, flip a coin.

Most reputable places that sell JDM itr swaps will send 32mm axles(that will fit your hubs) with the swap, so there will not be any issues.

alien

ive almost decided to go with the USDM.. it is cheaper.. plus i dont need to get a new wiring harness.. because b16a2 that im selling i gota give a way the harness.. that means if get the jdm i need to buy another si harnes... but i have another question.. whats a good exhaust system for the usdm type r motor? that fits b18c5 and will fit the 99 si shell

ctr status

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sinanovicha &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ive almost decided to go with the USDM.. it is cheaper.. plus i dont need to get a new wiring harness.. because b16a2 that im selling i gota give a way the harness.. that means if get the jdm i need to buy another si harnes... but i have another question.. whats a good exhaust system for the usdm type r motor? that fits b18c5 and will fit the 99 si shell</TD></TR></TABLE> The wiring harness came with my jdm b18c swap. As for exhausts, i believe any b-series exhaust for a 99-00 si should fit your car. I would go with something from apexi (N1 or Ws) or hks.

94eg!

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USDM B18C5
- has axles that fit all civics & tegs
- has wire harnes that plug-n-plays in all EG & DC chassis
- has correct throttle cable & bracket for LHD cars

JDM B18C Type R
- 98+ JDM swaps come with axles that won't fit US civic/teg hubs (96-97 JDM swap axles will work fine)
- requires you to get a USDM OBD-2 engine harness to plug-n-play in EG & DC
- requires throttle cable & bracket from US car

As you can see, the US swap is easier to get into your car. Availablility is a big problem though...