j32 or j35 into EG
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Re: j32 or j35 into EG
It can be done with any of the J-series motors I would believe, but some of them will definitely not let you have a hood regardless of the mounts you're using.
Regardless of all that the main factor in this swap I would say has to be finding a CL type S front clip or donor car to do this swap. If you search on H-T you'll see that probably 99% of these swaps on here were done that way, I've been paying attention to these for as long as I can remember, and that's what I've noticed.
Massive potential, this could go above and beyond any 4 cylinder Honda swap. If it can get enough aftermarket support it'll be just as easy as any other Honda swap. At this point the obstacles are mounts, the rarity of CL type S that are written off, and the lack of info here on the net.
For the last couple of hours I've been searching and saving links to a folder in my favourites. I'm gonna research this and hopefully I can post a basic FAQ about these v6 swaps in the hybrid section at some point. If any of you guys have good info or suggestions send me a pm, I'd really like to hear from some of you guys that have done the swap.
I'm gonna search online and locally to see if there are and/or how many CL S parts/cars are at auctions or wrecking yards, you guys can send me pm if you know of any or have leads on good places to look online. I have access to a computer which has Mitchell software on it, print outs for wiring diagrams I can get no problem.
I'm getting a fairly big amount on my tax return soon and a raise at work, wouldn't mind finding a good integra or del sol shell to start working on, and a V6 swap would be nice.
Regardless of all that the main factor in this swap I would say has to be finding a CL type S front clip or donor car to do this swap. If you search on H-T you'll see that probably 99% of these swaps on here were done that way, I've been paying attention to these for as long as I can remember, and that's what I've noticed.
Massive potential, this could go above and beyond any 4 cylinder Honda swap. If it can get enough aftermarket support it'll be just as easy as any other Honda swap. At this point the obstacles are mounts, the rarity of CL type S that are written off, and the lack of info here on the net.
For the last couple of hours I've been searching and saving links to a folder in my favourites. I'm gonna research this and hopefully I can post a basic FAQ about these v6 swaps in the hybrid section at some point. If any of you guys have good info or suggestions send me a pm, I'd really like to hear from some of you guys that have done the swap.
I'm gonna search online and locally to see if there are and/or how many CL S parts/cars are at auctions or wrecking yards, you guys can send me pm if you know of any or have leads on good places to look online. I have access to a computer which has Mitchell software on it, print outs for wiring diagrams I can get no problem.
I'm getting a fairly big amount on my tax return soon and a raise at work, wouldn't mind finding a good integra or del sol shell to start working on, and a V6 swap would be nice.
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Re: j32 or j35 into EG
The biggest problem regardless is finding a 6 speed tranny for these. If you could source one of those then you could use any J motor as a candidate.
Wiring would be the hardest labor being the most time consuming but wouldn't be too bad with the right diagrams.
Money and time would be all that is left. A hood would be nice for street use and if you did this for racing (drag anyway) there isn't an abundance of 6 cylinder classes.
But yes this is a good candidate for my next swap if the H2B goes south.
Wiring would be the hardest labor being the most time consuming but wouldn't be too bad with the right diagrams.
Money and time would be all that is left. A hood would be nice for street use and if you did this for racing (drag anyway) there isn't an abundance of 6 cylinder classes.
But yes this is a good candidate for my next swap if the H2B goes south.
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Re: j32 or j35 into EG
The biggest problem regardless is finding a 6 speed tranny for these. If you could source one of those then you could use any J motor as a candidate.
Wiring would be the hardest labor being the most time consuming but wouldn't be too bad with the right diagrams.
Money and time would be all that is left. A hood would be nice for street use and if you did this for racing (drag anyway) there isn't an abundance of 6 cylinder classes.
But yes this is a good candidate for my next swap if the H2B goes south.
Wiring would be the hardest labor being the most time consuming but wouldn't be too bad with the right diagrams.
Money and time would be all that is left. A hood would be nice for street use and if you did this for racing (drag anyway) there isn't an abundance of 6 cylinder classes.
But yes this is a good candidate for my next swap if the H2B goes south.
You can use any J motor, but to use a motor from an auto, you'll need to convert lots of stuff to the manual version if you want to use the 6 speed. For reference check this thread for the parts list to swap the Type S into non Type S Accord/CL/TL chassis. You'll see there's a list at the bottom of stuff you'll need to convert if you get an auto motor.
https://honda-tech.com/forums/honda-accord-1990-2002-2/look-here-parts-list-cl-s-6-spd-swap-search-j32-j32a2-6spd-cls-type-s-1897116/
That's just for the Type S J32 which had the optional 6 speed, not sure if it would all work with other J's that only came automatic, with a long list like that expect lots of searching and expensive trips to you Acura dealer. The best bet is still a 6 speed donor car.
Money and time is a necessity, but it might not have to cost more than other swaps if you can find good deals. Engine mounts and hood clearance shouldn't be an issue if you do the same as Pinho, his hood closes. I have no idea why Hasport didn't make their mounts like that, I'd like to know what they did for axles compared to pinho, I'm guessing axle placement is the reason their kit sits like that.
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Re: j32 or j35 into EG
damn, im excited to see what found on the swap.. i have the motor from my odyssey already but not i need to search for the manuel part to swap over...
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Hey guys I have a converter box in the testing phases that will run the J35A4/J32A2 on a automatic ECU. We have 2 accord running with it now and 3 more on the way. I am planing on building a V6 Civic in the summer. But if anyone needs help wiring I can help out. Here is some info I picked up over the years.
The 03 CL is the only year that came with a 6 speed lets refer to it as a CL6. The J32A2 from the CL6 is different from all the other J32A2/J35A4. It has special sensors and cam gears basically its a mix between a newer 03+ engine and the earlier engines. The CL6 6 speed also has a special sensor no other 6 speed has. The CL6 ECUs are rare and a pain to work with since they only work with the special cam sensors and 6 speed.
What I am offering a module/harness that converts the automatic J32/J35 ECU to run with a any 6 speed (Accord, CL, TL) and J32A2/J35A4 (02-04 Odyssey and 01-03 Type-s) engine. You can pick up any automatic engine and 6 speed not just ones from the CL6 which are cheap and more plentiful. You can also swap in between ECUs if you want to switch from a J35/J32.
You guys can check this out I have been helping people swap in 6 speeds in Accord for a while now.
http://www.v6performance.net/forums/...ad.php?t=73383
The 03 CL is the only year that came with a 6 speed lets refer to it as a CL6. The J32A2 from the CL6 is different from all the other J32A2/J35A4. It has special sensors and cam gears basically its a mix between a newer 03+ engine and the earlier engines. The CL6 6 speed also has a special sensor no other 6 speed has. The CL6 ECUs are rare and a pain to work with since they only work with the special cam sensors and 6 speed.
What I am offering a module/harness that converts the automatic J32/J35 ECU to run with a any 6 speed (Accord, CL, TL) and J32A2/J35A4 (02-04 Odyssey and 01-03 Type-s) engine. You can pick up any automatic engine and 6 speed not just ones from the CL6 which are cheap and more plentiful. You can also swap in between ECUs if you want to switch from a J35/J32.
You guys can check this out I have been helping people swap in 6 speeds in Accord for a while now.
http://www.v6performance.net/forums/...ad.php?t=73383
#32
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Re: j32 or j35 into EG
I'm running stock 2003 CL-S 6 speed ECU with my setup. No sec o2, no evap emissions garbage either.
Wiring of the swap was really gravy...but figuring the speedo and tach will be your toughest part of wiring. Thats something I'm working on right now.
the TL and CL transmissions mount up differently(on top with HAsport mounts). HASport mounts are designed to work with the TL mounts. For the CL, you have to drill and tap a new hole into the case.
I desoldered the imobi chip and the car starts everyday. Drive it everywhere- movies, mall, stores, shopping, etc.
Wiring of the swap was really gravy...but figuring the speedo and tach will be your toughest part of wiring. Thats something I'm working on right now.
the TL and CL transmissions mount up differently(on top with HAsport mounts). HASport mounts are designed to work with the TL mounts. For the CL, you have to drill and tap a new hole into the case.
I desoldered the imobi chip and the car starts everyday. Drive it everywhere- movies, mall, stores, shopping, etc.
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Re: j32 or j35 into EG
wiring is a big job,and your hood will not clear the intake manifold.....
cute idea but not really feasable for a daily driver...
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Re: j32 or j35 into EG
would this swap work in a hatch any better then a coupe or be harder??
and i have aj32, out of a new acura TL, full harness, everything i mean i understand my car isnt gonna be slammed, for clearence issues. but all in all, is it a waste of money or what??
and i have aj32, out of a new acura TL, full harness, everything i mean i understand my car isnt gonna be slammed, for clearence issues. but all in all, is it a waste of money or what??
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Re: j32 or j35 into EG
[QUOTE= I desoldered the imobi chip and the car starts everyday. Drive it everywhere- movies, mall, stores, shopping, etc.[/QUOTE]
When you say that you de-soldered the immobilizer chip, you are talking about directly in the ecu? Did you have to create some sort of jumper for the pins or just leave it blank? You wouldn't happen to have any pictures of this being done would you?
When you say that you de-soldered the immobilizer chip, you are talking about directly in the ecu? Did you have to create some sort of jumper for the pins or just leave it blank? You wouldn't happen to have any pictures of this being done would you?
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Re: j32 or j35 into EG
here is some of the j swap that i have now
93 coupe with a j30a1 dizzy auto w/ lowered mounts
this is the 95 hatch with a 03 CL type-s manual this is one of the cars i built before the turbo kit.
this is the construction shots
this is the AEM F I/C controller that we used to control the system . we sell this package with a base map. inquire by PM.
here is the vid for the start up of the first time
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IijIjN8Cuy4
here is the vid for the dry run to see if the car would stay together and the axles would be fine.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djKldmGEU-c
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93 coupe with a j30a1 dizzy auto w/ lowered mounts
this is the 95 hatch with a 03 CL type-s manual this is one of the cars i built before the turbo kit.
this is the construction shots
this is the AEM F I/C controller that we used to control the system . we sell this package with a base map. inquire by PM.
here is the vid for the start up of the first time
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IijIjN8Cuy4
here is the vid for the dry run to see if the car would stay together and the axles would be fine.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djKldmGEU-c
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Re: j32 or j35 into EG
Don if I can sell my JDM GSR swap and JRSC I will be ordering some parts from you. Your harness and immobilzer thing for sure. I have been following your work over on j32
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Re: j32 or j35 into EG
Hey man,
I rocked this swap in 2010 and had a lot of fun with it.
It was indeed a tricky swap compared to the usual B stuff I was used to. But in the end the bastard really hauled ***.
My regret was not using the "lower" mounts and not spending more time trying to get it in the bay with the hood closed.
Knowing what I know now I'd do things a little different. I took it off the road before I got my custom intake manifold completed.
Let the haters hate on this. Do you!
I still have my custom intake that puts the plenum on the rear of the motor to improve hood clearance. Let me know if you're interested.
I rocked this swap in 2010 and had a lot of fun with it.
It was indeed a tricky swap compared to the usual B stuff I was used to. But in the end the bastard really hauled ***.
My regret was not using the "lower" mounts and not spending more time trying to get it in the bay with the hood closed.
Knowing what I know now I'd do things a little different. I took it off the road before I got my custom intake manifold completed.
Let the haters hate on this. Do you!
I still have my custom intake that puts the plenum on the rear of the motor to improve hood clearance. Let me know if you're interested.
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