oneEg1Tc

ok so im tryin to bar my usdm gsr swap , and i was planning on going to get it bar'd but hear too many if's so here i am asking if you had bar'd a car before how true are these rumors

-stock cams a must ?
-was gonna use dc carb legals but people say they bitched about it ,
-stock intake or carb legal one ?
-what piping ?
-plastic cover for the cams ?
-DOES A WIRE TUCK AFFECT ?


EVERYTHING ELSE I GOT COVER THANKS

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oneEg1Tc

thank you !

87 SiviK Si

-stock cams a must ? Keep everything as STOCK as possible. Less for them to complain about.
-was gonna use dc carb legals but people say they bitched about it, Yes, DC headers are C.A.R.B. legal, but like above, put them on after.
-stock intake or carb legal one ? Same as above.
-what piping ? Stock piping with GSR cat. Depending on the car it may require 2 O2 sensors.
-plastic cover for the cams ? Shouldn't be an issue unless the cams are AM, if then, see first ?.
-DOES A WIRE TUCK AFFECT ? I would say, more than likely. They are gonna ding you on every none stock issue you have, and make sure all emissions controls are there and in working order.

Like you said, there are a lot of If's and those If's vary from one BAR location to the other and even so, one ref to the other. I have seen 2 done, one the guy gave a once over and just eye balled everything was there. The other time, the guy was poking and prodding everything and even busted out the inspection mirror to make sure the cat was legit and all the piping from manifold to muffler was all in order.

Its just a matter of hoping for the best.

oneEg1Tc

on the piping , it has to be oem hatch with the gsr cat welded on to then right , people were teling me to run a gsr complete piping. either or thanks for the imput

roughneck

Do you have to have power steering and AC hooked up?

EgUnoGodfather

Basicly to bar a car in California they told me that u need to make ur car the same as the motor not the motor fit the car. for example u need to make ur car seem as much as a stock GSR as possible no getto rigged crap. i just bar'd my B16 to my bros Hatch i needed to make the car seem like a stock SI form the motor wise.

I mite be wrong so i dont know but thats what ive been told.

oneEg1Tc

no A/C or ps , and yea pretty much i have the idea just on the piping is the one debating on

EKtheory

to bar a car in cali, the new engine must be newer then the car model and must have all the stock parts of the engine put inside the car. for example the ecu,water pump etc. EVERYTHING must be for that car. Since it is a GSR swap it needs all of the parts from the integra to go with it. People that inspect can be dicks and go over every little thing and inspect it making sure it is perfect.

it has to pass a emissions screening, and a visual screening as well. Whatevers wrong with the car they'll tell you what you need to get fixed and you have to come back at a later time to try and get it bar'd again

oneEg1Tc

thanks for all the replies and helpful info , btw yes engine is newer than the chasis , but still no info on the piping

ekb16

iTrader: (1)

piping doesnt matter..as long as you have a cat on it your good to go

MitsuChevyHonda

Make it look bone stock and play dumb. Say you bought the car like that and you thought it was factory. Also if you have rims put the oems back on. If the car appears to be stock on the outside less likely they will think its modded and investigate to the fullest. I dont live in ca but a friend does. He had a carbon fiber hood so they went threw it up and down 3 or 4 times looking for anything they could get him on. And they found something stupid and said it had to be fixed. He put the oem hood back on went back and they barely looked and pasted him and he never had the "problem" fixed.

jonesEK

iTrader: (1)

(dont mean to thread jack) so a car wouldnt be BAR-able if it had a LEGAL turbo kit? or a LEGAL supercharger??

MitsuChevyHonda

yes and no lol If the car doesnt come turbo then there going to look for anything they can get you on. But yes you can pass with a turbo. It would obviously need to have a recirculated wastegate and probably a recirculated bov. The recirculated bov is more for the people looking for **** to get you on. Dont give them reasons to **** with you.

oneEg1Tc

i saw the piping last night and seem to be 2 1/2 = / should i get the stock one then and weld the gsr cat onto it ?

blkcivic310

i have 2.25 with gsr cat and i passed just fine

AGENT_47

note to self , never live in Cali

oneEg1Tc

so piping dont really matter as long as you got cat with o2 and stock exhaust right

godluvstegs

jujin_9

Hey there pole I got a similar ? Ok so I need to smog Chek my Ef this common April I wanted to bard it... I have a stock LS motor b18a1 in my dx hatch..my hatch has the Si harness which was fuel injected no ripped cables or anything the motor looks pretty stck n my piping is a 2.25 with no cat n no engine light come on but in the computer I get some codes will that affect to bard it ??? I can get the cat n headers but I'm concerned about those ecu codes

grumblemarc

iTrader: (4)

Your EF? Wrong forum.

sho_shane

Living in cali must SUCK *****!!!

Where I live there is no BAR no smog at all.

blkcivic310

yea in my case piping didnt matter as long as you have a working cat and o2 you will be fine

blkcivic310

for everyone else getting bard is not that hard fallow a couple simple rules
1. motor has to be same year or newer then the car
2.wire the motor up to watever your car is (ex.my 97ob2 gsr is wired ob1 to a 95gsr ecu in my 95 civic)
3.keep everything as close to stock as possible
4.make sure you have a legit motor that will pass smog
FOLLOW THESE STEPS AND YOU WILL HAVE NO PROBLEM GETTING BAR'D

TwoFaced

Yeah...piping shouldn't matter as long as all your welds are good and flanges meet up correctly, you know...no leaks?