dohcem1

Hey guys, I have an Em1 with a stock b16 and im going h2b. I finally got the kit after waiting for almost 4 months!! (Im going QSD by the way). Now this is m 1st swap ever, and yes im going to attempt on doing it myself.
My motor is an h23a vtec blue top.

Here are some pictures

h23a vtec




QSD kit that I waited for so long..










Hondata s300 ready...




I have prep the motor as in changed the timing belt (went thru hell with that cause im a newb remember? ) ;changed to manual tensioner (that was kinda easy) ; Changed water pump and all the belts ; got the alternator kit and d series pulley ; Now i also got the skunk2 IM and I freaked out. Why? cause i do not know what goes where and stuff (hope you guys can shine some lights for me.) Pics










For example, the H23a vtec comes with this weird vavle... that doesnt look like my b16...


Also, the h23a vtec is an OBD2 motor right? Then how come it doesnt have crank position sensor or the TDC sensor?

This will be updated daily because tomorrow I will start dropping the motor and working on this project. Please feel free to help me and give me advise. If i missed some things that have been covered IM SORRY!

More to come. thanks



Modified by dohcem1 at 9:40 PM 7/20/2008

dohcem1

By the way, what did you guys do about the power steering rack? I heard if i pluck it up, it might lock up on me...

Also, I notice the plug for the distributor on my b16 is different than the plug on the h23v.. what am i supposed to do about that? I read the stickied on h22 wiring on this section already but nothing was mention about the Si harness.. thanks

2fast4u831

the valve on the left you dont need(EGR valve) for smog purposes. the one one the right goes behind your intake manifold(IACV) it looks like you have an obd-1 distributor/engine. there's a wiring diagram of how to convert your harness plug from obd-2 to obd-1.

dohcem1

Now why is that? isnt the h23a vtec only comes in obd2? cause its 97+ only? Also, that valve doesnt fit the skunk2 IM .. should i get one off of a usdm prelude?

As for the distributor can I just get one off the usdm 97+ lude? will it plug right up? thanks

turbociv910

USDM motors are the only ones taht come with crank sensors, to fix that code visit-

http://technet.ff-squad.com/ckftrick.htm

rebo0t

nice

88ED8

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I wish my plate had the part number and the cool qsd logo

dohcem1

OO I see. I'll be running a p13 with the jumper harness from obd2b to obd1. Can anyone else help me with the other problems?

Today, I finished prepping the motor, bolted up the plate but found out i gotta grind a little tab. I will do that 2morow and take picture. Hopefully i can have this car running by 2 weeks....... If anyone could help me with some of these problems... thanks

YeeJ6

Good luck with the build. you may have to change your brake fluid resivour.. when i did my h2b my skunk 2 mani didnt clear it.

dohcteg

Nicee

dohcem1

OO damn really? Change to which reservoir? I was going upgrade the booster and MC to 00 GSR ... which other reservoir will fit? Which car did you swap the h2b to?

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dohcem1

Wow no more help from anyone...?

YeeJ6

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OO damn really? Change to which reservoir? I was going upgrade the booster and MC to 00 GSR ... which other reservoir will fit? Which car did you swap the h2b to?

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This is waht your stock reservoir looks like right?


try using your stock em1 brake fluid reservoir when you drop the engine in, it may have enought clearance, mine was the round one and didnt clear it by just a little.

Mine:

dohcem1

Thanks awesome! Anyone else want to chime in with more helps?

AllMotorRandy

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This is waht your stock reservoir looks like right?


try using your stock em1 brake fluid reservoir when you drop the engine in, it may have enought clearance, mine was the round one and didnt clear it by just a little.

Mine:
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ITB's will definitely fix your clearance problem

dohcem1

Haha I sure want ITBs too bad this is my daily..and no more cash =/

AllMotorRandy

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fits just like a glove......

dohcem1

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dohcem1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Now why is that? isnt the h23a vtec only comes in obd2? cause its 97+ only? Also, that valve doesnt fit the skunk2 IM .. should i get one off of a usdm prelude?

As for the distributor can I just get one off the usdm 97+ lude? will it plug right up? thanks</TD></TR></TABLE><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dohcem1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">By the way, what did you guys do about the power steering rack? I heard if i pluck it up, it might lock up on me...

Also, I notice the plug for the distributor on my b16 is different than the plug on the h23v.. what am i supposed to do about that? I read the stickied on h22 wiring on this section already but nothing was mention about the Si harness.. thanks</TD></TR></TABLE>


Can I use the stock injectors and fuel rail from the h23a or do I have to get it form another year? or motor? can someone link me to a site/link/thread that shows me how to repin/modify/or do whatever to make my b16 harness work with the motor? I did look and read thru the stickied thread but most of the info is about OBD1 harness or EX harness or EG harness or 98 ek harness only. Sorrie if i sound newb because I am. I jsut really want to finish off this swap asap... but theres just so many problems and questions im running into. I have searched b ut most people on here are doing h2b into eg, ef, 98 ek. No1 really did an h23a blue top into an EM1 soo i just couldnt get enuff info for my swap... Thank you very much for your helps.

dohcem1

bump!?

LA_HONDAS

use the h23a injectors

and use your stock motor harness just make your alt wires longer

dohcem1

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and use your stock motor harness just make your alt wires longer</TD></TR></TABLE>

So thats it?? I dont have to do ANYTHING else?

jime64871

iTrader: (1)

wow,
nice project. Hope everything turns out well. I will to be doing a H2B swap soon...

dohcem1

Ok here are some pictures and updates of my swap...

Out with the old




i took this weird looking fat sensor off of my b16 Im and put it on the skunk2 h23.. it seems to fit.. can someone confirm it will work?



Can someone tell me what all these holes are for?


Also what is this sensor here? How come my b16 harness doesnt have a plug for this?


Ok heres my biggest problem... the distributor plug and the b16 harness doesnt fit at all...


BUT this plug off of a 99 civic harness seems to fit...


**** it FITS!.... but..

If you notice...there are only 7 wires off the 99 civic plug but there are 8 wires off the h23a plug.... what now..?

Thank you.

dohcem1

updated cmon guys..i want to get this swap done and rolling... no love for a person who trying to learn ?

fatboy1185

on my skunk2 mani, i just capped the majority of the holes, like #3 for sure.