Turbohatch

What is overall the faster motor?

Newman

Whatever you want it to be. You're asking a question that has so many factors involved.... compression of motor, how the motor is built, what parts are used on the motors, what car it's going into, driver's ability to drive (traction control, shifting, etc), the list goes on. If you're talking about a "stock B20-VTEC" basically meaning stock B20 pistons and stock B16A or B18C head, then sure a H22 motor in a similar car can be faster. You can make a B20-VTEC very high compression with JUN cams and it'll run fast (which is what we're currently doing to my old B20 motor... going into my friend's Integra). Or you can get a H22 and put high compression pistons in there and get JUN cams and run that as well. It all depends on a number of things.


Just for the record, don't take this the wrong way... I always get somewhat fustrated when I see the same type of posts over & over, asking "which setup is faster" or "will my car w/this motor beat this car w/that motor?" and all types of questions that usually cannot be answered until you actually go out and try it or do it. With $$$, you can make anything worthy and fast.

B18C-EJ1

What's even more annoying is when someone comes here and says....

Is a built (insert engine code) faster than a bone stock (insert engine code)

Jeez guys/gals, do you really need a quarter to buy a clue??

Why must you ask the questions for which you already know the answer???

B18C-EJ1

How much money you got?

BoM

If u put money into building the CRV engine then
it'll be faster,
but stock for stock H22 all the way

B18C-EJ1

How can you say that? You're comparing apples to oranges.....

If you put the same amount of $$ in the H22, the CRVTEC has no chance.

This is why I hate these discussions.

Hybrid CRX

CRVTEC WOULD BE FASTER THN THE H22. bUT RELIABILITY IS QUESTIONED.

GZR4DR

A bone stock CRV with all GSR parts will easily get beat by a bone stock H22A. In the same car of course.

jinxproof99

the reliabiltiy of a hybrid motor is much more questionable than if you had a stock h22 or b18c1(providing all other tuning factors are the same). hybrid motors are impressive and unique(at least they were), but a clean stock motor would have to be considered more reliable over a period of time. the difference in power can always be made up by cranking up the boost.

DLB1994

jinxproof99 what size turbo u runing and how much boost
making 350hp at the wheels u got to have a garrett t4 ,60-1 ,t3/t4 ex.82 com.60 somthing big with not that much boost

Cwood

You've had to hear "There's no replacement for displacement." Now think about that for a while. BTW I don't wanna hear any replies about running boost in one and getting more power. Run the same amount of boost in the other and you'll get more power. All things equal anyway.

Kataku2K3

I would go with the CRVTEC, for the streets at least in a daily driven car the power to weight ratio is better from a CRVTEC. I'm not saying the H22 isn't good it's just that i have seen a couple H22 hatches and several B20VTEC hatches around with amount the same ammount of money put in to them and the CRVTEC's seem to dominate. L-Natural runs a H22 in there CRX, and I believe Skunk2 ran an LSVTEC or a CRVTEC in there integra (correct me if i'm wrong) they both ran 10's all motor. You decide which is best, but if it was me i wouldn't ruin my chassis to mount a motor that isn't designed for the chassis and is goin to generate a lot of understeer. CRVTEC

sickasslewdpoweredhatch

it all depends what your going for na or turbo. You can stroke both motors but one thing that the b20 will always be better at will be weight. Preulde motors are heavy but the make more torque. Unless you stroke. the most that i have heard bore on a b motor is 87mm thats a lot more then a lude. But then again its nt strretable just bacause its thin and the headgasket is easy to blow. B20 swaps are still unresearched. Theres not a lot of guys running around with b20 turbo setups just because its not common. One other thing is that a prelude motor is hard to hook up at the track just because of the way the motor and axel position is set up to make clearances and yada yada. But the new hassport reposition the motor quite nicely and sta away from the place racing mounts they break and break quick. I had them then opted to junk them for the hasport. I broke one hasport on the drivers side but then they made some custom ones with thicker plates. Hassport will look out for its customers.

Halo

ummmm........why would reliability be questioned?

B18C5-EH2

Just because a lot of people SAY so without even knowing for sure

Face it. We will ALWAYS have these discussions because that's what this MB is here for. To discuss things sometimes even BEFORE a person buys a particular part or whole swap.

If you have a CR/VTEC motor built CORRECTLY there shouldn't be sucha relaibility problem. Have some half-assed build, and you'll get half-assed reliability.

I will say that there's no arguing that a stock H22A built by HONDA would be tough to beat in terms of reliability - those motrs can take a serious beating right from the factory.

Either could be built to outpower the other, but HOW MUCH would it cost to do so for each motor?

What are the intended purposes of the car? Drag and street? Drag and Auto-Cross? Street and Roadrace? These answers to those questions should sway the decision towards one or the other motors.

I've seen over 240whp from a good built-up CR-VTEC motor before - just ask Jeff from Import Builders - he's a fan of both the H-series motors and the B-series motors, and he builds bad-*** versions of both.

HaUTSaauce

well said