Mentat Ghola

Wattup hybrid people. Well, im preparing the EF to be sold, to make room for a CX/VX EG. After considering different swap options i have decided to dump the built b18c idea and go the H22 route. (92-96 JDM h22a that is) With LS1's runing low 13's and ocasionaly 12.9's stock, Dodge freakin neons hitin low 14's, stock WRX's just a few mods away from 13's, and the Evo soon to hit the streets seems like a b18 wont cut it if a honda wants to keep up. Not a stock b18 anyways. B series are still kick-*** but youd have to build'em, turbo'em, or NOS'em to hit any of those low ET's. So ive decided to swap a H22 into my future hatch. Bang for the buck, and power right out of the box you cant beat a H22. I know the installation will be a pain, and the suspension tuning will be a handful but i want power and torque without spending a fortune. O know i can hit 13's on the stock motor, and that leaves lots of room for improvement. Cams, gears, bolt-ons, headwork. So i was wondering what you h22 hatchers are runin, how streetable is your civic, any regrets or problems, and if anyone knows a website with detailed instal instructions. Ive seen all those that say "cut a whole in the floor to insert...blah blah" im talking pictures and detailed step by step. I know Honda Tuning is soon to cover this but...id rather not wait. Any help is appreciated. And dont flame me for not searchin..i have searched. couldnt find nothin solid.
thanx honda brothas.

daver

I'm starting to get the same idea too. The b20 integra is nice, but 150-160-hp these days is almost embarassing. Time to eliminate the yearning and future regrets and go all the way at once. h22a hatch plans start now.

d

ps. b20 g2 integra? Good winter car.

Propulsion

wont the built b18c make more hp than the stock h22?

yaya

key words BUILT....STOCK

MONSTERZC

go with the b20 vtec high comp pistions and skunk stage 2 cams and port and pol type r manfold . with this setup you will be close to 200 all motor hp. throw on a port and pol head and with the right tune you are at 230hp and running low 12's all day



[Modified by MONSTERZC, 2:22 AM 3/20/2003]

Suprdave

I'm currently preparing my All-Motor EG to be a EVO, STI, etc etc etc stompin muhfucka.

I'll let ya guys know how it goes...

SilverEk3dr

Its just my oppinion. But having had an h22 in my civic for about a year now. I really wish I would have went the B route instead of h22. I know everyone thinks h22's are "great" but I really dont see it. I have taken mine to the track a few times, and my best time to date is still only high 14's. In the past months I have seriously contemplated swapping someone with a 99-00 SI and go with a B16 and build a b18 or b20 block for later.

Only time it feels like its running strong is on a really cold night.....other than that it sounds like my engine is accelorating slower than the B series I'm racing.

Plus its a headache to build an h22 if you want forged pistons etc... *Seems like* h22's were just meant to pull around big heavy preludes

And once again B16 B18c5 etc.....Sound incredible in VTEC. H22's blah

Mark

Smith Wise

B18C5 is the way to go, drop it in, and run it stock...... you will fall in love once you throw that thing in your hatchback, no bullshit. H22 is NOT worth the headache.

porsche997dc2

Just stick with b18c & turbo it. You will keep up with them & even beat them with no sweat. Remenber those cars are not all motor. They are turbo charged.

hybrider

[QUOTE]I'm currently preparing my All-Motor EG to be a EVO, STI, etc etc etc stompin muhfucka.[QUOTE]

i think we all are in here

on the h22

mitsuman

iTrader: (1)

yes b18c would make more power turbo, but hes lookin to go all motor route.

h22 also gets from me

Pat McGroin

You are the first H22a Civic owner I have seen say this. Everyone else praises the h22a.

His decision is made. Oh, and here's my contribution to your thread.
http://www.h22hybrid.20m.com/index.html


[Modified by Pat McGroin, 2:55 AM 3/20/2003]

JDMH22HATCH

iTrader: (6)

I definitely give you a on the H22! I've had mine for a year now and wouldn't have chosen a different route. With just bolt ons and a bunch of tuning I made 206 whp with 160 lb of torque. The car runs 12.8's and still has a bunch of potential. The swap is not complicated and can easily be done by anyone with any sense of swaps. Good luck and let us know how it goes.

Jason kiDD

Sounds to me that someone either messed up his swap or there is something wrong with his setup..

EK22Tim

to the H22.

SilverEk3dr

Forgot to mention though.....Im running OBDII and I think thats part of the problem

Who knows...

Mark

Jason kiDD

I would bet on it..

Mentat Ghola

thanx for the feedback guys. Once again, i am planing all motor. And somewhat on a budget. a b18c turbo would run to about 5-6 g's tuned. h22 is the way to go. Any thoughts on LSD, is it standard on JDM h22's? Or is it worth 400-500 bux extra to get it? Seems these days big car companies are throwing out stock cars that are really quick, sad to say honda has fallen behind on this, atleast here in the states. The quickest honda we got (NSX excluded...100 g's) is the s2000 and thats above the 30 grand mark.for that kinda money you could get an EVO or the soon arriving STI. I will be content with anyhting in the 12's though, thats enough power to beat most guys out there. Seems like with my old b16 EF the only performance cars i was beating were other hondas (GSR's, and other hybrids) and thats no fun. Time to go for the big guys.

IS3Fifty

I would much rather push a built motor to the limits than a stock motor. Wouldnt you rather have a built B18c1 than a stock H22??? Higher quickers revs, there are so many pluses to that swap.

Pat McGroin

How about a built H22a?

Mentat Ghola

you cant just throw around "built" like that. Its not that simple or inexpensive, and requires a lot of [planing, money, downtime, and tuning afterwards. Some of us arent made of money you know. and we dont have 2 cars to cruise.

daver

also, some people like factory honda reliability and longevity too.

eg hatch+h22a+boltons =

d

Slow CX

This should get you started.
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?&i...057223#4057223
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=362984
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=434668
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=397433
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=394729
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=436505
http://www.h22hybrid.20m.com/index.html

One 38

go with the h22..dont let the internet BS "its too heavy, your axles will break, you can get a b18c5 for cheaper, youll travel back in time" or whatever the h22 bashwagon is on this month..Get the h22..use the extra 2000$+ you woulda spent on a b18c5,ls/vtec,b20/vtec and buy some lunch, pack of gum and 1970$+ into boltons/whatnot.

fastwanabe

ummmm.... yeah there is something very wrong with your motor

H22 get a from me.