teg-9

I want to do the swap in my car since I already have a b16 in my teggy! I was wondering if I can use my b16 pistons in the GSR block... what other things would I have to buy to be able to do this swap... and would it be easier and cheaper to do LSV? and would it be more reliable than the LSV?

DVDr

iTrader: (2)

yes you can use the pistons in the GSR block as long as they both have the same bore ( aka one has NOT been overbored )

both stock bores are 81mm. Then you can use everything from the gsr ( waterpump, timming belt , etc ) and you're set .

I would recommend getting the full bottom end. so you have the RODs and crank. then if you want to swap your Pistons do it, or this is a good time to increase the compression with some type R pistons or pistons of your choice.

teg-9

thanks man big help! second question, would this be cheaper than going LSvtec and less of a hastle and if so is it more reliable?

noremorseracing

you dont have to run a ls-vtec kit and dont have to buy the wires to hook up vtec nor buy a vtec ecu, you can always use the block you got and change the pistons keep the same rods and put a gsr head straight on and your gone. use the b16 head gasket

teg-9

b16= no torque! I want torque

SolAssassin

YES, it would definitely be cheaper than it would to go LS/VTEC. You have to spend lots of $$$ to do it right. The LS rod bolts won't hold up and will need to be replaced with ARPs (which means new bearings, and since your crankshaft is coming out, you might as well get new pistons and / or rings, rehone, complete gasket set, etc etc plus the cost of machine work), and you will also have to replace the oil pump with one for a GSR (and to combat cavitation, a GSR / Type R water pump). And don't forget the LS/VTEC oil line kit which means you need to buy the tap that is not included in the kit to tap the head for the allen plug. These things are all essential to go LS/VTEC, and the price adds up quick! Believe me, you are getting answers from somebody who has done it (I went B20/VTEC)! I even went the extra mile and got a GSR girdle, pickup tube, windage tray and oil pan. If cost is an issue, don't go Frankenstein unless you have the money.

teg-9

Can someone give me exact directions, steps, and things I have to buy and do to go poor man's type r!!!!! I think thats the way Im going to go! also an estimate of how much it might cost me!

noremorseracing

b16 head 500 bux
keep your stock oil pump and water pump and timing belt, keep same cams as gsr pretty much just change the head and use the b16 head bolts.

easy breezy

teg-9

I already have the b16a2 head I just need the block! how much will the block cost me?

do I need to buy new ARP head studs?

sorry im a noob

noremorseracing

no u dont need headstuds but its helpful to have....blocks are roughly 250-500 complete, my buddys sellin a complete gsr block that actually came out of one of my old cars, for 500 bux no head

teg-9

I would bro but I cant give you that much because then I would have to pay for shipping too bro!

lower the price and Ill do it!

whjy u sellin the block?

does it need to be rehoned?

how many miles?

noremorseracing

not my motor bro i cant mess with the price, its a 99 gsr motor it wuz in a ef civic they took it out and built a b20 vtec, the motor has less then 100k miles.. so he used the head for the b20 vtec..

block is perfect slap a head on and go

teg-9

100K? that means I would prolly have to take it to a machine shop to get it rehoned and bored

Hybrid96EK

Its a good thing you would reccomend he get the "full bottom end" since he can't use the B16 rods in the B18C block anyways...

SolAssassin

Wanna REALLY do yourself a favor? Sell your head and just buy a GSR longblock! It's a lot easier than trying to build a poorman's Type R (an UNDERPOWERED GSR). You can get good money for that head and then buy a motor from H motors that you know will work, instead of spending money on a head gasket set, head studs, having to do your valve lash, etc....

And forget about swapping in B16 pistons because if you do that, your block will have to come apart, and at that point you might as well break the bank and go all out and get a B20Z bottom end.

Think about it. You can keep looking for a GSR block, or you can just get a full GSR motor and have an extra 10 hp. To me, the poor man's Type R is pointless! Its a B16 with extra torque. It's a step up from a B16 but still slower than a GSR, although its a lot less expensive than going LS/VTEC or B20/VTEC.

teg-9

Im not sure if my motor is legit, thats why Im trying to get rid of it and get the gsr block! does the head have vin numbers on it?? if it doesnt I will sell it I dont care!

teg-9

my budget right now is around $600, I know for a fact my motor is not legit.... I found this out later on after I bought the car, when I bought the car I had no idea about the honda game but now I know Im screwed... what should I do????????

SolAssassin

either sell the car and keep your mouth shut about it, or go to the police about it. the problem is that if you go to the police, they will probably confiscate the engine and do nothing about the guy who sold you the car

teg-9

car isnt stolen, found out head has no vins... Im gonna swap internals in tranny into ls tranny and swap block... Ill be good!